"Getting along with Russia is a good thing - not a bad thing"

Thing1 said:
Just the act of meeting w/ him at this point - with what we just found out - should never have happened.

How is it possible for you to not even understand that?
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Just when would you fund it convenient to meet to improve relations? All presidents have talked to Russian leaders by this time in their presidency

How bad do you want them to deteriotate in the meantime?
You claim you don't want war - OK fine -but if nations do not talk..what happens? they slide into conflicts/

You can't say "don't talk now" - talk are already ay late in starting,and then say you don't want war.
War is stopped by diplomacy-so you you want a diplomatic path or not?
 
Thing1 said:
Of course - because the only choices are caving to an adversary in embarrassing & obsequious fashion, or declaring war.

You just lost the debate, btw.
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Who said we were debating? Did I agree to some sort of a debate? I don't recall. Can you tell me where we agreed to enter into an official debate?

The only place I "debate" is in APP and most liberals are too skeered to do it.

What do you want Trump to do to Russia? Be specific. Do you think little ole sanctions will be enough to deter Putin?
 
Thing1 said:
Just the act of meeting w/ him at this point - with what we just found out - should never have happened.

How is it possible for you to not even understand that?
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You do realize that "what you just found out" is old news right? The news came out in the House Intel report months ago. Didn't you know that?

How is it possible for you to not even know that?
 
Thing1 said:
Just the act of meeting w/ him at this point - with what we just found out - should never have happened.

How is it possible for you to not even understand that?
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Just coincidentally, Mullet comes out with his latest Russian indictments [which are a rehash of the Spring House report sans the names of the Russians] RIGHT BEFORE Trump goes to meet Putin.

Are you certain you’re not a stooge?
 
Darth Omar said:
Bill Clinton wanted to get along with the Russians. Bush II did. Obama did and as well as Secretary Hillary.

But Trump isn’t allowed to lol.
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DEMOCRATS want regime change in Russia, I think, and they are using the story that "Putin meddled with our government" as cover, lol.
 
Darth Omar said:
Just coincidentally, Mullet comes out with his latest Russian indictments [which are a rehash of the Spring House report sans the names of the Russians] RIGHT BEFORE Trump goes to meet Putin.

Are you certain you’re not a stooge?
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I believe the term is "useful idiot".
 
Darth Omar said:
I’m not defending Trump I’m pointing out that the Left did an about face on Russia.

And it’s undeniable.
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No, they didn't. It's not an "about face." When did leaders on the left ever see Russia as anything aside from an adversary? Most on the left hated how he treated Clinton and Obama.

There is a huge difference between treating Russia with caution, and no longer seeing them as our "#1 geopolitical threat."
 
Teflon Don said:
Who said we were debating? Did I agree to some sort of a debate? I don't recall. Can you tell me where we agreed to enter into an official debate?

The only place I "debate" is in APP and most liberals are too skeered to do it.

What do you want Trump to do to Russia? Be specific. Do you think little ole sanctions will be enough to deter Putin?
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It seems to me that what saintly Lord Littlething of the Civility Nobility wants is no Trump. He's been emoting since November 9, 2016 like a child who didn't get what he wanted for his birthday.

For the record, I'll say it again: Trump did what I wanted him to do on Election Night. The rest is just entertainment.
 
anatta said:
Just when would you fund it convenient to meet to improve relations? All presidents have talked to Russian leaders by this time in their presidency

How bad do you want them to deteriotate in the meantime?
You claim you don't want war - OK fine -but if nations do not talk..what happens? they slide into conflicts/

You can't say "don't talk now" - talk are already ay late in starting,and then say you don't want war.
War is stopped by diplomacy-so you you want a diplomatic path or not?
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I'm really not going to address your false choice anymore. I want our government to engage in sensible diplomacy. That isn't warmongering. Period.
 
anatta said:
thing is far from alone. John McCain/Graham say " we are at war with Russia".
They would rather war then talk
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One suspects that Thingy would complain no matter what President Trump does. That has been his MO since November 9th 2016. Why should it change now?
 
blackascoal said:
For all the obvious reasons.

It's time to call this what it is. Treason.
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Did you have similar concerns about Congressmen and Senators, Democrat and Republican, hastening to Izrael for ' consultations ' prior to the election ?
 
Teflon Don said:
One suspects that Thingy would complain no matter what President Trump does. That has been his MO since November 9th 2016. Why should it change now?
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It's not just liberals who think this meeting should have been called off.

You guys have really abandoned reason. It's a pretty simple thing here.
 
Thing1 said:
No, they didn't. It's not an "about face." When did leaders on the left ever see Russia as anything aside from an adversary? Most on the left hated how he treated Clinton and Obama.

There is a huge difference between treating Russia with caution, and no longer seeing them as our "#1 geopolitical threat."
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so do you support the talks in Finland or not? If not now when? -

meanwhile relations continue to deteriorate, the war in Ukraine grinds on.
Syria needs a path to an end./// is this a convenient time for you?
 
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