How Fauci Is Seen Through A Less Clouded Lens

Irrelevant. This was and is not how Chinese Disease was transmitted. It is a virus. Secondly, if the mask is worn improperly and there isn't a good seal all the way around the circumference, it's nearly worthless for that reason alone. Few people had mask training. This reason was one of the major ones I saw as a reason to NOT wear those worthless little masks. I had repeated military and industrial training in use of masks for a variety of purposes.


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There is no verifiable proof of this, your links notwithstanding. This is the difference between the 'real' world and some lab study.


Again, no verifiable proof of this and your link to this study:


Gives none. You are making a fallacy fallacy here.
So much horse manure. Like most things the answer is in how it turned out.

"States that implemented strict public health measures (like mask mandates and lockdowns) or benefited from geographic isolation achieved the lowest death rates. According to data from the Commonwealth Fund Scorecard and Wikipedia's pandemic statistics, the top health performers included: [1, 2, 3]

  • Hawaii: Achieved the lowest age-adjusted COVID-19 death rate in the country (147 deaths per 100,000 people), largely aided by its strict travel quarantine measures and high vaccination rates. [1]
  • Vermont: Consistently ranked at the top for its low infection rates, high testing capacity, and minimal per capita deaths. [1]
  • Massachusetts & Connecticut: Maintained premier healthcare systems that prevented hospital collapses and secured some of the highest multi-dimension health performance marks. [1]"
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So much horse manure. Like most things the answer is in how it turned out.

"States that implemented strict public health measures (like mask mandates and lockdowns) or benefited from geographic isolation achieved the lowest death rates. According to data from the Commonwealth Fund Scorecard and Wikipedia's pandemic statistics, the top health performers included: [1, 2, 3]

  • Hawaii: Achieved the lowest age-adjusted COVID-19 death rate in the country (147 deaths per 100,000 people), largely aided by its strict travel quarantine measures and high vaccination rates. [1]
  • Vermont: Consistently ranked at the top for its low infection rates, high testing capacity, and minimal per capita deaths. [1]
  • Massachusetts & Connecticut: Maintained premier healthcare systems that prevented hospital collapses and secured some of the highest multi-dimension health performance marks. [1]"
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WTF does that have to do with anything I stated?
 
COVID-19 was a new virus. Fauci used all the methods that were used on similar viruses in the past. He did his job directly, fighting and controlling an epidemic as our previous experiences with them indicated. The problem started when Daffy Donald was talking at COVID pressers. He knew nothing about it, but free TV time was something he could not pass up. Often the time expired before the doctors could speak.
He used the platform to talk about hydroxychloroquine, light, and other crazy treatments. He is a consumer of conspiracies and strange information, which he somehow believes immediately. Trump's followers accept his ideas over epidemiologists. We have to survive 2 more years of this bumbling fool.
Nordie, how many jabs did you take?
 
Bottom line; if doctors Deusberg & Mullis were alive today and allowed to testify before Congress, EVERY ONE on both sides of the fence WOULD BE Singing a different tune!
 
he's a fucking genocidal trash human.
A member of the trump administration committed genocide?

That would make trump at the very least epically incompetent, but more likely guilty of crimes against humanity. Either way, he has no business in the White House.
 
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Which "facts?" Ones like:

Masks actually don't work?
How about social distancing? Didn't work either.
Vaccines? Marginally effective at around 40%, maybe less.

Fauci was a lying idiot telling us bullshit.
But masks do work. There is no denying that.

You can argue about efficacy in certain situations and trade offs but you cannot say they do not work as a blanket statement and not be wrong.
 
But masks do work. There is no denying that.

Not when given to the general public they don't. Most people have no idea how to properly wear one. Then there's the issue that if the mask worn is the improper type you are mostly wasting your time wearing it. On the whole, masks were worthless with Chinese Disease.
You can argue about efficacy in certain situations and trade offs but you cannot say they do not work as a blanket statement and not be wrong.

I can say they don't work as a generalized statement and be totally correct.
 
Not when given to the general public they don't.
They can and do.

Most people have no idea how to properly wear one. Then there's the issue that if the mask worn is the improper type you are mostly wasting your time wearing it. On the whole, masks were worthless with Chinese Disease.


I can say they don't work as a generalized statement and be totally correct.
^ this argument above fails every time it is offered.

I can say NOTHING works if i simply caveat it by 'if the people use it improperly.

- seat belts do not work if used improperly

- medicine does not work if taken improperly

etc, etc,

If an elderly vulnerable person has to enter a pharmacy for only a short period of time to grab their prescription and then leave and a person with covid has wandered in a minute after and never gets closer than 15 feet to them, then both of them wearing masks covering their nose and mouth will INCREASE THE TIME needed for the breath carrying the virus to reach them and expose them to it.

That increase in time may fall outside the window of them leaving, meaning they may never have contact with the virus.

This is a basic of undeniable science of how air circulates and how a virus like covid travels on it. It is a function of speed and distance and quantity of virus load in the expellant from the infected. Masks SLOW the breath travel, serving as a proxy for distance.
 
The bottom-line question to the original intent of this thread is:

Why was NIH and Fauci funding ANYTHING at a lab in Wuhan China?
This is just my belief and i believed it before Covid was a thing.

My view is that the US gov't will NEVER not be involved in experiments around gain of function, in the same way they will acknoweldge the potential danger of AI and yet not refuse to have the US involved leaving it to others countries to potentially weaponize and then the US is playing catch up.

Putting aside any nefarious desires some in the US might have for either Gain of Function or even dangerous AI, and assuming only good intentions, they simply will not cede this ground to other nations, thus leaving the US more vulnerable to those who succeed in developing it.
 
How Fauci is seen through a less clouded lens:

"Scientific Peer Respect: Within European scientific circles, such as the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, Fauci is widely revered for his decades-long career spanning the HIV/AIDS epidemic to COVID-19. European public health agencies have historically viewed his research and leadership as the "gold standard" of medical rigor.

"The "Fauci" Archetype: Fauci became such a prominent symbol of scientific communication during the pandemic that major European media outlets routinely used him as a benchmark. For example, when Karl Lauterbach was appointed Germany’s Health Minister, the European press widely dubbed him “Germany’s Fauci” to denote a deeply qualified, straight-talking public health defender."

Washington Post.

Thanks.
This truth is why the MAGATs hate Fauci and want to drag him down to their bottom-of-the-sewer level:

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There are the European public health agencies and then there is the American Right.

"Gain of function" when it comes to viruses and disease is something that will ALWAYS be studied and SHOULD BE and if gov'ts have to do it as part of a black ops program they WILL. What they WILL NOT do is not study it.

that is not the question or issue but because you are a magat and ergo dumb you will not be able to follow what i say next.

The question gov'ts like the US have to wrestle with is how much they all their scientists to just study it versus trigger or push it.

The reason the US and other will always participate in studying it is the same reason gov'ts are all now saying they back AI pushes to super intelligence despite knowing the huge risks.

that Viruses will continue 'gain function' naturally and in enemy labs around the world is as much as a given as that if the US does not pursue AI super intelligence other adverse countries will.

The US simply WILL NOT cede those threats to others while not trying to have a lead position in the research for both defensive and offensive means. THEY WILL NOT and 'gain of function' will always be done, no matter the name they try to hide it under.

During the pandemic this attitude helped the Right increase its familiarity with cemeteries.

^No, he didn't.

Fauci's Involvement

  • Dr. Anthony Fauci did not personally conduct gain-of-function research.
  • He served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), where he oversaw funding decisions related to such research.

Funding and Oversight

  • The National Institutes of Health (NIH) awarded grants to organizations like EcoHealth Alliance to study bat coronaviruses, which included aspects of gain-of-function research.
  • Fauci's role was primarily administrative, focusing on funding rather than direct research activities.

Conclusion

Dr. Fauci's involvement was limited to overseeing funding for research projects, not conducting the research himself.

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I was tempted to respond to this idiocy. But then I read ahead in my book, as always, and see that you've already been beaten to a pulp by rationality and facts.

Dismissed!

Bottom line; if doctors Deusberg & Mullis were alive today and allowed to testify before Congress, EVERY ONE on both sides of the fence WOULD BE Singing a different tune!

A member of the trump administration committed genocide?

That would make trump at the very least epically incompetent, but more likely guilty of crimes against humanity. Either way, he has no business in the White House.

Many viruses are transmitted on droplets, including Covid.


Even when not worn perfectly, it makes a huge difference.
Fuckin' morons.
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Fuckin' morons.
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Bottom line; if doctors Deusberg & Mullis were alive today and allowed to testify before Congress, EVERY ONE on both sides of the fence WOULD BE Singing a different tune!

FACTS, Matty .... they come with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
 
BREAKING STUDY: Spike Protein Drives Prion-Like Protein Misfolding, Amyloid Formation, and Multi-Organ DamageCOVID “vaccine” spike protein and lab-made SARS-CoV-2 spike protein are prion-like drivers of proteostatic collapse, pathological cross-seeding, transcriptional instability, and tissue dysfunction. mRNA vaccination has disrupted the normal homeostatic and thermodynamic balance of protein metabolism and catabolism with a range of pathogenic effects in the human body. mRNA vaccination has been a biological catastrophe thus far, and we may have seen just the tip of the iceberg.

View: https://x.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/2088228824962011561
 
Bottom line; if doctors Deusberg & Mullis were alive today and allowed to testify before Congress, EVERY ONE on both sides of the fence WOULD BE Singing a different tune!

FACTS, Matty .... they come with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
The facts are there is AIDS in the Covid "vaccines", chump! (It really is)
Fauci manufactured AIDS and pushed AZT as a treatment, when the AZT was very bad for people.
Fauci manufactured Covid-19 and pushed mRNA shots as a "treatment" or "vaccine", when it's definitely NOT a vaccine.
 
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