“I think that, at some point, that’s going to sort of just disappear"

archives said:
Can't you read, your bet is like wagering with Biff Tannen, nobody is that inane
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How so snowflake? More likely it is because you're nothing more than a whiny, lying blowhard who knows your full of shit. ;)

archives said:
Oh, so I guess then Murdoch's "the Hill," along with "RCP" are now "phony media"
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Did you think the polls in 2016 nailed it? :palm:

archives said:
"Record number of voters disapprove of Trump's handling of COVID-19"[/B]
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...ber-of-voter-disapprove-of-trumps-handling-of

"Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._trumps_handling_of_the_coronavirus-7088.html

Say good night "thruthie," your done
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Translation; Arsecheese isn't going to answer questions or take the bet because he knows he is nothing more than a whiny, lying blowhard who knows your full of shit. ;)
 
Truth Detector said:
How is it pointless? Because you're nothing more than a dishonest, lying blowhard?




New YORK was the worst spot on the planet you moron. :palm:

So tell us genius without a brain; what is the answer? Keep the economy shut down, throw another ten million out of work until next year? This narrative is a LIE. It is being promulgated by a PHONY media enterprise that got so unhinged and butt hurt by Trump, it is willing to tear this nation apart in a desperate bid to get a lying dumbass with dementia elected.

That is the definition of retarded.
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Ah, now for a few facts, first off, "anything but the truth" obviously doesn't his film characters, even though this one did become pretty much a staple, and secondly, he certainly doesn't understand what is happening today, shocking, but to educate him again, New York went from the epicenter to one of the only eight States today not seeing alarming rates, do you think he might be able to figure out why on his own?
 
Stretch said:
Again. That's common sense. Not worth coming to blows with others about in here (not you). Others that turn this mask debate in WW3.
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I believe masks work. I see masks working in other countries, and with medical professionals, so I believe they work. But even if I did not believe they work, I would wear them, because those are the rules. I would rather have a job, and support my family, then not wear a mask. I think it is time for some of these children in adult bodies to just grow up and wear the mask.
 
Stretch said:
"Alllllllll persons who get seriously ill with a virus have an immune disorder and are severely compromised." is a true statement.
The blame is on the weak immune system. They can't fight off the disease.
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You are absolutely incorrect. So prove me wrong, and provide some peer-reviewed, accredited medical journal articles. Thanks.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You are absolutely incorrect. So prove me wrong, and provide some peer-reviewed, accredited medical journal articles. Thanks.
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Have you ever had a doctor visit in your life? Yes? Did he ever remind you to eat right, wash your hands, etc.?
Did you ever have blood lab work done? Yes? Did you & your doctor go over all the results? Check those white & red blood cell counts? Insulin numbers? Etc.
Have you ever had a cold? A viral infection? A bacterial infection? Did your doctor ever advise/tell/teach you how to keep up a strong immune system
so that you could fight off colds a little better in the future?

All I am saying is that if one has some sort of health issue which might be something relatively minor...like a cold, your immune system gets
compromised (sort of lets down its guard). During that period of time you are more vulnerable to getting something more serious like a virus.

So, the idea here is to strengthen yourself as best you can against the small stuff so you are more able to fight off the big stuff.

I don't get the split here. So many militant mask-wearers in here wanting to help protect ones' self and others...but completely the opposite
when it comes to protecting ones' self and others by being healthier in the first place. :thinking:
We should all be pretty much on the same page here.
What is it? We want to save health & lives with our masks..........but we want to kill health & lives with our bodies?
 
Stretch said:
Have you ever had a doctor visit in your life? Yes? Did he ever remind you to eat right, wash your hands, etc.?
Did you ever have blood lab work done? Yes? Did you & your doctor go over all the results? Check those white & red blood cell counts? Insulin numbers? Etc.
Have you ever had a cold? A viral infection? A bacterial infection? Did your doctor ever advise/tell/teach you how to keep up a strong immune system
so that you could fight off colds a little better in the future?
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Have you forgotten that I'm in my 7th decade, I am a retired health care professional, and have a background in both science and medicine? Don't be patronizing. It makes you look dumb.

All I am saying is that if one has some sort of health issue which might be something relatively minor...like a cold, your immune system gets
compromised (sort of lets down its guard). During that period of time you are more vulnerable to getting something more serious like a virus.
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That's not how it works but in essence you are somewhat correct. Your immune system does not "let down its guard." It can, however, be overwhelmed -- as we've seen with the COVID.

So, the idea here is to strengthen yourself as best you can against the small stuff so you are more able to fight off the big stuff.
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Good advice whether you're in a pandemic, or not.

I don't get the split here. So many militant mask-wearers in here wanting to help protect ones' self and others...but completely the opposite
when it comes to protecting ones' self and others by being healthier in the first place. :thinking:
We should all be pretty much on the same page here.
What is it? We want to save health & lives with our masks..........but we want to kill health & lives with our bodies?
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We ARE all on the same page here, and once again -- no one is denying that living healthy is harmful. You keep going back to that. NO ONE SAID IT.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Have you forgotten that I'm in my 7th decade, I am a retired health care professional, and have a background in both science and medicine? Don't be patronizing. It makes you look dumb.



That's not how it works but in essence you are somewhat correct. Your immune system does not "let down its guard." It can, however, be overwhelmed -- as we've seen with the COVID.



Good advice whether you're in a pandemic, or not.



We ARE all on the same page here, and once again -- no one is denying that living healthy is harmful. You keep going back to that. NO ONE SAID IT.
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So what's the problem? Is there even any problem at all? Why does everything have to be such a drama and fight?
We both agree masks are helpful. We both agree a healthy immune system is helpful.
Go. Be happy. Live your life. Stay strong. There's no fight here. We're splitting hairs with semantics.
Peace! :cool:
 
Stretch said:
So what's the problem? Is there even any problem at all? Why does everything have to be such a drama and fight?
We both agree masks are helpful. We both agree a healthy immune system is helpful.
Go. Be happy. Live your life. Stay strong. There's no fight here. We're splitting hairs with semantics.
Peace! :cool:
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Nope, you don't get off the stupid hook that easily. No, honey, we are not splitting hairs at all. We are discussing your cavalier attitude to the pandemic and the deaths of more than one-hundred-thousand of your fellow Americans.

You wrongly believe that ppl who get seriously ill from viruses all (alllll, you wrote) have defective immune systems. This is your subtle way of dismissing this pandemic as no big deal. Stop hiding behind dog whistles, pseudo-science, religion, and stupidity and say what you really mean. You just don't give a shit about the death toll as long as it doesn't affect #COVID45's chances in November.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Nope, you don't get off the stupid hook that easily. No, honey, we are not splitting hairs at all. We are discussing your cavalier attitude to the pandemic and the deaths of more than one-hundred-thousand of your fellow Americans.

You wrongly believe that ppl who get seriously ill from viruses all (alllll, you wrote) have defective immune systems. This is your subtle way of dismissing this pandemic as no big deal. Stop hiding behind dog whistles, pseudo-science, religion, and stupidity and say what you really mean. You just don't give a shit about the death toll as long as it doesn't affect #COVID45's chances in November.
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Try and have one nice sunny lovely day. Peace :cool:
 
Walt said:
If it is related to the weather, why are cases rising in Brazil and America? We are in different hemispheres, so in different seasons. I don't know if you have been out recently, but I would hardly call this winter in America... Well not winter in a literal sense; it is probably winter in a figurative sense.
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Why do you find that so hard to understand? The mechanism for humidity inhibiting viruses is well known in the medical world.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outcome
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Nope, you don't get off the stupid hook that easily. No, honey, we are not splitting hairs at all. We are discussing your cavalier attitude to the pandemic and the deaths of more than one-hundred-thousand of your fellow Americans.

You wrongly believe that ppl who get seriously ill from viruses all (alllll, you wrote) have defective immune systems. This is your subtle way of dismissing this pandemic as no big deal. Stop hiding behind dog whistles, pseudo-science, religion, and stupidity and say what you really mean. You just don't give a shit about the death toll as long as it doesn't affect #COVID45's chances in November.
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That vast majority of them do. Or some underlying illness. The death toll from Covid would be nowhere near what it is if they were all healthy people that got it. People with strong immune systems beat it as is shown every day. That is not psuedo science, that is pure fact. Hope you enjoy your 4th.
 
Sailor said:
That vast majority of them do. Or some underlying illness. The death toll from Covid would be nowhere near what it is if they were all healthy people that got it. People with strong immune systems beat it as is shown every day. That is not psuedo science, that is pure fact. Hope you enjoy your 4th.
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I'd venture 50% of the population has something or other that aggravates this illness, whether known to the victim or not.
Many people still smoke, that doesn't help. Many have undiagnosed heart conditions, etc etc. And this illness has an uncanny
ability to exploit whatever ails you.

In any event, to follow the point where it appears to be going, so we should care less about people who are less than perfectly healthy?
Not what Jesus taught.

I've read it repeatedly reported that survivors often claim to be permanently impaired. THat's an entirely larger
population added to the mix that makes this virus devastating and nothing to sneeze at.

Going on a bike ride now, wearing my mask to protect myself and others, hoping to avoid by at least 20 ft the Trumpers who aren't
doing anything to make the world a better place, even wearing a damn mask too much to ask.
 
Sailor said:
That vast majority of them do. Or some underlying illness. The death toll from Covid would be nowhere near what it is if they were all healthy people that got it. People with strong immune systems beat it as is shown every day. That is not psuedo science, that is pure fact. Hope you enjoy your 4th.
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That about sums it up. Thank-you. :wink3:
 
Micawber said:
I'd venture 50% of the population has something or other that aggravates this illness, whether known to the victim or not.
Many people still smoke, that doesn't help. Many have undiagnosed heart conditions, etc etc. And this illness has an uncanny
ability to exploit whatever ails you.

In any event, to follow the point where it appears to be going, so we should care less about people who are less than perfectly healthy?
Not what Jesus taught.

I've read it repeatedly reported that survivors often claim to be permanently impaired. THat's an entirely larger
population added to the mix that makes this virus devastating and nothing to sneeze at.

Going on a bike ride now, wearing my mask to protect myself and others, hoping to avoid by at least 20 ft the Trumpers who aren't
doing anything to make the world a better place, even wearing a damn mask too much to ask.
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Stay safe!

You are right; this virus targets major organ systems, and its damage and targets vary by person. As you correctly pointed out, most of us have some sort of underlying health anomalies that we may or may not even be aware of. To state that "only people with poor immune systems will get seriously ill," and then trumpet about how one can allegedly "fix" said immune system with vitamins and other quackery is ignorant and cruel. Stretch might as well blame people for dying from cancer, lupus, ALS, MS, etc. "It's your fault for not taking care of yourself!"

I'm sure Stretch stays far away from crowded venues, wears protection when she does have to go out, and avoids dangerous activities. If she really believed all that immunity bullshit she preaches, she'd be out dancing in clubs, going to #COVID45 rallies, and singing in her church choir.

Florida: 11,458 new cases today. Too bad none of those people took their vitamins, charcoal, and garlic. :rolleyes:
 
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