Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians — not the West —and it’s now or never

Nothing being “debated,” you clearly said “Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians,” to which I asked when didn’t Iran’s fate belongs to Iranians, to which you replied “When they threatened the region, Israel, chanted Death to America and started trying to build a nuclear ballistic missile ,” which is inane
What is inane is your tiny little brain trying to comprehend basic concepts. Rin along you clueless little assclown. :palm:
 
At this point in the Biden Presidency, it had not hit the peak.

trump has had 400 million barrels in strategic reserves released to postpone the peak. Reserves run out. We will see where the peak is this Summer or later.


That was on cities. It is much harder to carpet bomb 600,000 square miles.


It is a fact that whenever a ship tries to transit the Strait without Iran's permission they are warned off with artillery shells. It is kind of tough to shoot artillery shells without artillery.

Beyond that, trump is currently striking artillery, rockets, and drones... So not all blown up.


Then why can't ships leave the Persian Gulf without Iran's permission?
Translation of this brainless pile of nonsense:
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Hey Wally, first of all you're reading fake news like always. Trump did not release 400 million barrels. That would be hard to do when Biden left us with 394 million barrels, right? I got to say, I'm getting really sick of educated morons that can do it for themselves preventing yourselves from being embarrassed every single time you open your mouths.

Let's look at the facts:
  • When Biden took office (January 2021): 638 million barrels
  • Lowest point (mid-2023): Around 370 million barrels
  • Net drawdown: Roughly 268 million barrels at the bottom.
Why? Biden’s policies played a huge role in the high prices. Canceling Keystone XL, pausing new federal leasing, heavy regulation on drilling, and general hostility to US oil production. This kept US output from growing fast enough to offset the little, by comparison shock to oil prices when Putin decided it was time now that autopen was in charge. So...what happened next, when a competent administration took over again?

  • Biden left the SPR at 394 million barrels.
  • Trump added back 47 million441 million barrels.
  • Trump released 172 million441 - 172 = 269 million barrels. We could discuss the reasons for both Presidents actions if you'd like.
Where did Wally get his fake news?? Who knows, but it's clear he just repeats it like always. He simply accepted a fantasy some idiot wrote or said on The View and parroted 400 barrels!!

Then it's 'why can't the tankers leave yet?? Not sure if he thinks I've said we did carpet bomb 600 square miles or if he read between the lines that don't exist. There are many reasons that we could only speculate about without the knowledge that's not available to either of us, or the fake news. If you'd really like for me to give you some, I'd be happy to. I assume you're not capable to thinking of any all by yourself and since your puppet master's haven't given you any talking points to explain those reasons, you're lost, out of luck, stuck until a libtard 'expert' tells you. Just ask, and I'll help.

The other dumbass parts of your comment like those pictures show cities destroyed, not 600 square miles. Hilarious, This idiot thinks we couldn't flatten 600 square miles if needed. Why? Well, I guess he's flailing or isn't aware of the size and scope of our destructive power, who knows how presumably 'educated' people become babbling idiots. I have plenty of opinions, but I'll leave that for another day.

The point Wally? We can do whatever is necessary up to and including flattening 600 square miles leaving nothing by insects living if needed. Of course, we would not need to carpet bomb as we did thousands of square miles in WWII. We have much better intel and targeting these days.
You're going to confuse the little brainless man with the facts. :laugh:
 


With so many ships locked up in the Gulf for so many months, if they had a chance to leave, they would. We all know that if anyone tries to leave the Gulf without Iranian permission, they are warned off with artillery shells.

Link to this dumb lie.

You said we could bomb all of Iran, like we bombed cities in WWII. Creating that much explosives in WWII cost a lot of money, so it would require a huge shift in our industrial policy to even do WWII level bombings.

Another brainless claim suffering from ignorance and stupidity.

More importantly, Iran is not 600 square miles. That would at least be doable. It is 600,000 square miles.

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Again, Iran is not 600 square miles, but rather 600,000 square miles. Carpet bombing a few square miles was difficult in WWII.

:lolup: Clueless clown thinks we still indiscriminately carpet bomb. :palm:

We should run the math.

What would you know about math little brainless man?

Carpet bombing a square mile requires 400 tons of explosives. To carpet bomb 600,000 square miles would require 240 million tons of explosives. The USA dropped about 2 million tons of explosives in all WWII, so we are talking about 120 times the effort of WWII.

Are you really willing to make that level of committment?

:lolup: Boorish dunce thinks we still carpet bomb indiscriminately. Your strawman arguments are boring and painfully stupid halfwit. :palm:
 


With so many ships locked up in the Gulf for so many months, if they had a chance to leave, they would. We all know that if anyone tries to leave the Gulf without Iranian permission, they are warned off with artillery shells.


You said we could bomb all of Iran, like we bombed cities in WWII. Creating that much explosives in WWII cost a lot of money, so it would require a huge shift in our industrial policy to even do WWII level bombings.

More importantly, Iran is not 600 square miles. That would at least be doable. It is 600,000 square miles.


Again, Iran is not 600 square miles, but rather 600,000 square miles. Carpet bombing a few square miles was difficult in WWII.

We should run the math. Carpet bombing a square mile requires 400 tons of explosives. To carpet bomb 600,000 square miles would require 240 million tons of explosives. The USA dropped about 2 million tons of explosives in all WWII, so we are talking about 120 times the effort of WWII.

Are you really willing to make that level of committment?
Opps, I wrote a response a couple of days ago and somehow it didn't make it on this thread. I probably got distracted and closed out the session before coming back here. Here's a re-write. And I didn't 'run the math' you absolute moron, lol.

First, spare me the clickbait trash. I am done wasting time on it. I have learned that lesson after bothering to read the bullshit you morons throw up in place of your own thoughts. Besides I am not here to debate some loser who feeds you lines. If there is anything worthwhile in any article you get your talking points from, then say it yourself in your own words. I am talking straight to you. This isn't an article exchange dumbass.

Also, you keep pretending I said we already turned the coastline into rubble by asking why the ships are still stuck waiting and afraid to traverse the Strait. Why aren't ships moving then, says the moron. I never claimed we've done anything to open the strait, yet. You act like ships sitting still is some brilliant gotcha while completely missing the point. Then comes your irrelevant statement explaining, carpet bombing a few square miles was tough, lol. Proving what? Again, not that it's relevant The Allies wiped out over a thousand square miles of tough targets and massive buildings built to last not flimsy shacks on dirt. We are vastly more powerful today with superior reach, speed, and precision.

I tossed that example out only to prove a point through deliberate exaggeration. It clearly sailed over your head. You're such an idiot you actually started focusing in on how much TNT it takes per square mile. Absolutely hilarious. Am I supposed to 'run the math' now, lmfao. What point was I making? When America sets its mind to finish a job our military gets it done no matter how much sniveling cowards wet themselves in fear and or gloom and doom predictions. Thank God idiots like you were not involved in our military back then. Also and again, I never demanded we reduce the coast to moon dust. I said only that if full annihilation was needed, we could and would deliver it to achieve our goals. Our forces can destroy threats as far inland as necessary. If you'd like you can calculate how much TNT it would take, knock yourself out.

Maybe answer a couple of simple questions. Do you believe we must strike immediately or quit? Forget about whether or not we should be there, because we are. So, now what does the brilliant Wally think we should do? I don't know where any of you idiots stand because you just bitch and moan. Libtards never have solutions, they only bitch about everything others do. You're great a bitching, you suck at solutions. My guess? If Wally was King for a day, he'd order the military home and apologize to the IRGC, release all the money we ceased, pay reparations and allow Iran to charge tolls. Is that about right?

The reality? None of us have a fraction of the information needed to fully appreciate the real threats, obstacles, and potential solutions. We can choose to trust America or CNN, The NYT, The View, Ms. Now, The IRGC, and Jimmy Kimmel. Wally doesn't trust America, in fact, he hates America with a passion, just as all libtards do. Weak minded losers like Wally have been indoctrinated with alternative history and Marxist ideology for many years teaching them to hate capitalism, free markets, private property rights, and most of all American Exceptionalism. Everything these scumbags say and do is a direct result of that indoctrination. That's why I call them radicalized drones, it's exactly what they are, Wally included.
 
The fact remains that the Strait of Hormuz is closed by Iran. Cry all you want that it is not fair, it is what it is.


Bombs do not use TNT.
Dude, it's all over for the regime. You need to turn off CNN. I just created this thread. You should go here and forget about the stupid shit you've been saying and start celebrating with the sane people. The IRGC is done, it's all but over. I wonder if you'll be happy.

 
Dude, it's all over for the regime.
How long have you been saying that any day now it will be all over for Iran? About 3 months now? When will it start to be all over?

But let's say you are right. A country of 92 million people collapses into anarchy. Many of those people have strong anti-American views, with huge numbers of weapons dispersed among the well military trained population. How does that look? Not good.
 
How long have you been saying that any day now it will be all over for Iran? About 3 months now? When will it start to be all over?

But let's say you are right. A country of 92 million people collapses into anarchy. Many of those people have strong anti-American views, with huge numbers of weapons dispersed among the well military trained population. How does that look? Not good.
That's where you're wrong. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan or any other third world shithole. The Iranian people are exactly what they were fifty years ago: pro-Western and civilized. They've been held hostage by a radical Islamist regime for forty seven years. Iran was a modern advanced country back then. Women had real rights, could show their hair, and drive cars. You couldn't marry thirteen year old girls either. They had actual courts that enforced real justice and argued the law. It was nothing like the shitholes you're picturing.

It won't turn into anarchy. They have a leader with overwhelming support. They were all shouting his name months ago and they're still solidly behind him now. Time will tell, but I think it comes sooner than later. I get a real kick out of you idiots screaming 'quagmire' the second your first focus group told you it was the perfect buzzword to repeat. Come see me in a couple years and maybe I'll entertain the quagmire talk, but even then it would be a pathetic stretch.
 

House votes to limit Trump’s Iran war powers in remarkable rebuke....to end war in Iran. Folks, Trump wanted this and the house gave him a way out. Don't be fooled. This is what Trump is more concerned about....1780545012204.png'Our pool is bigger than skyscrapers': Amid war, Trump touts Washington projects and you got stupid motherfuckers on this site defending this clown...they all make me want to vomit.​

 
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