Is opposing or decrying pride month necessarily proof of "hate" for LGBTQ+?

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As a reminder, below is our exchange with the question I asked.

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Once you get the Bible re-written, I'd like you to provide me with a copy of it. I wanna see just how 'infinitely more useful' you can make it, and I wanna see if I should be putting my faith in you instead of the Christian God.

Here's a couple of easy changes:
  • Directly ban slavery
  • Directly ban child abuse
  • Don't endorse killing of homosexuals
  • Don't endorse killing of your kids for back talk
  • Don't endorse human/animal sacrifice
Which of those do you disagree with?
 
As a reminder, below is our exchange with the question I asked.



Here's a couple of easy changes:
  • Directly ban slavery
  • Directly ban child abuse
  • Don't endorse killing of homosexuals
  • Don't endorse killing of your kids for back talk
  • Don't endorse human/animal sacrifice
Which of those do you disagree with?
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Hinduism isn't bad internationally, but it's not great either. How woud you like to be born into a transgenerational caste system where even your great great grandchildren are destined to be peasant-class?

Buddy, thats a ridiculously broad statement.
1) FYI Christianity isn't a problem you ignorant little ingrate.
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The reason why you have all the freedoms and peace that you enjoy in NA is because of its Christian principles, which are ingrained in the constitutions and Bills of Rights.
No it's not. The fact that those ideas were created by Christians isn't the same as saying they are Christian principles.
2) Equating islam with Christianity is like equating hand-jobs with mass-murder, genius. FYI Christians don't kill apostates, marry children, beat up and imprison women for not wearing the proper religious attire, or behead people for not converting. They didn't do that 100 years ago and they sure as hell don't do it in 2026.
Fundamentalist Islam is significantly worse then Christianity, but for the same reason - Divine revelation. Living in a world where your beliefs are structured around the nonsensical social norms of men who killed other men to appease imaginary gods and couldn't explain where the sun went at night.
 
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No.


Opposing or criticizing Pride Month (or specific elements of it) is not logically or necessarily equivalent to "hate" toward LGBTQ+ individuals. This conflation rests on a category error: treating disagreement with a seasonal cultural/political event, its messaging, tactics, or associated ideologies as evidence of personal animus or desire for harm toward people. "Hate" implies intense hostility or dehumanization; dissent does not. People routinely criticize St. Patrick's Day parades, religious festivals, corporate Earth Day events, or political rallies without being accused of hating the underlying groups.


Key distinctions​


  • Individuals vs. events/ideologies: One can support basic civil liberties for gay, lesbian, or bisexual adults (e.g., consensual adult relationships, employment nondiscrimination in most contexts) while rejecting aspects of Pride. Examples include:
    • Commercialization and corporate rainbow-washing that feels performative.
    • Public events featuring overt sexual displays, kink, or nudity in family-oriented spaces (documented in multiple city parades over years).
    • Expansion into gender identity activism, including medical interventions for minors (puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, surgeries), contested by clinicians citing desistance rates, comorbidities, European reviews (e.g., Cass Review in UK), and rising detransition reports.
    • Institutional mandates: pride flags on government buildings, compulsory DEI training, or social pressure equating non-celebration with bigotry.
    • Shifts from tolerance ("live and let live") to demands for affirmation, compelled pronouns, or viewing dissent as violence.
  • Religious/philosophical grounds: Traditional Judaism, Christianity, and Islam distinguish same-sex attraction (often viewed as a temptation) from acts or identity politics, while teaching "hate the sin, love the sinner." Secular critics invoke evolutionary biology, developmental psychology, or statistical patterns (e.g., higher mental health comorbidities in some LGBTQ+ cohorts, per large-scale studies like those from CDC or Scandinavian registries—not causal proof of "hate," but relevant to policy on youth transitions or sports). Opposition here tracks belief systems, not targeted malice.
  • Empirical variety: Polls (e.g., Gallup, Pew over time) show majority acceptance of homosexuality in Western countries has risen sharply since the 1990s, with legal same-sex marriage normalized. Yet support drops for certain extensions (youth transitions, biological males in women's categories). Many vocal critics of Pride rhetoric—gays and lesbians included (e.g., groups like Genspect, LGB Alliance, or figures like Andrew Sullivan, Julie Bindel)—cite concerns over rapid-onset gender dysphoria, erasure of sex-based rights, or "dropping the L/G" in favor of queer/trans activism. Blanket "hate" labeling dismisses these as irrational prejudice rather than engaging evidence.

Rhetoric and fallacies​


Labeling opposition as "hate" functions as a conversation-stopper (motte-and-bailey: the defensible core of anti-violence shifts to equating policy critique with bigotry).

It mirrors broader patterns where disagreement on race, immigration, or gender is pathologized.

"Pride" itself includes political elements—advocacy for specific policies, corporate sponsorships, school curricula—not mere private celebration.

Public events invite public scrutiny.

Tolerance is reciprocal: it protects private lives but does not require endorsement of parades, curricula, or medical protocols.

Classical liberalism (Mill, Locke) prioritizes harm principle and viewpoint diversity over compelled speech or emotional validation.

Actual hatred—violence, slurs aimed at individuals, denial of basic dignity—exists and is distinct.

Conflating it with skepticism toward Pride Month's current form (post-2010s evolution) erodes debate and breeds backlash.

Reasonable people assess by outcomes: declining youth mental health trends amid rising identification, free speech incidents, or sports fairness data, not slogans.
No but when dealing with small minded demoncraps they believe so
 
Why do you have to insult pigeons like that?

They're often called flying rats with limited mental abilities that are constantly looking for handouts and are widely regarded as pests.

Do I need to explain further?
 

Wow. Good one.
No it's not. The fact that those ideas were created by Christians isn't the same as saying they are Christian principles.
TBH, "Christian principles" weren't created by Christians, they were around for thousands of years before Christ was born.

But I was 100% correct in stating that the constitutions and bills of rights in Canada were founded on those Christian beliefs, because the Christian men that made those documents were explicit about it.

The fact is that you live in a society where you can act and talk like a child, and even flail against all the things that make thses countries great, because of the Christian values that these nations were built around.

If you go to other countries that aren't Christian, there's only a very small chance that you will experience anywhere near this level of freedom of expression, and freedom to choose your own lifestyle.
Fundamentalist Islam is significantly worse then Christianity, but for the same reason - Divine revelation. Living in a world where your beliefs are structured around the nonsensical social norms of men who killed other men to appease imaginary gods and couldn't explain where the sun went at night.
Buddy, islam is significantly worse than Christianity because: instead of having a spiritual leader that's impossibly perfect and kind, their leader is infinitely more like Hitler or Stalin... mohammed married a small child and had sexual relations with her before she even hit puberty (still legal today in highly educated countries like Iran), beheaded people for not joining his religion, forced women and children into rp-slavery, murdered people for money, etc.

I think you're not very well-read.
 
This is pretty simple....

Yes or no, are there people who hate LGBTQ people?
Yes: for the most part, all muslims hate LGBTQ people.

Even in highly educated countries like Iran, which Dems and Libs were cheering for in the recent war against the US, the government carries out the death penalty against gays to this day.

The only LGBTQ++ people that they tolerate are the men who have sex with boys. That is still a highly respected tradition with a lot of islamic and Arabic tribes.

Too much truth for ya?

Oh yeah, I forgot: muslims allow grown men to marry really small children too. Leftists call those people "minor-attracted individuals", but I'm not sure what letter they give them in the LGBTQ string thingy.
 
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Yes: for the most part, all muslims hate LGBTQ people.

Even in highly educated countries like Iran, which Dems and Libs were cheering for in the recent war against the US, the government carries out the death penalty against gays to this day.

The only LGBTQ++ people that they tolerate are the men who have sex with boys. That is still a highly respected tradition with a lot of islamic and Arabic tribes.

Too much truth for ya?

Oh yeah, I forgot: muslims allow grown men to marry really small children too. Leftists call those people "minor-attracted individuals", but I'm not sure what letter they give them in the LGBTQ string thingy.
Their great "prophet" was one
 
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