Melania Trump, most unpopular First Lady ever?

Cypress said:
Her choice to not meet with, or assist the incoming first lady in any way is really a gigantic asshole move.
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Well she married one so that speaks volumes in itself. Though my guess that contract will be torn up within the next 12 months, she sure has plenty of grounds and his prenup might not be worth much at this point. I would suggest she do so as soon as possible being that she needs to get what she can while he still has something.
 
Cypress said:
CASPER said:
It is true, unfortunately.
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Her choice to not meet with, or assist the incoming first lady in any way is really a gigantic asshole move.
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If Melania is considered more of a hostage, maybe the hatred of her will become more focused upon the hostage-taker. Melania isn't a caring or charitable woman. She just wants to be rich and fuck the security guards. Nothing illegal. She never wanted to go to DC in the first place. I expect Trump had to cough up a yuuuuuge chunk of money and/or assets to keep Melania onboard for the reelection campaign.

Right now I'm thinking Melania may be moving back to New York with Barron, for school, ya know, sometime next year. She'll be in Trump Tower and Trump will be in his little TV studio in Mar-a-Lago. Life will go on.

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Dutch Uncle said:
Only if "Nobody" equals poor men and jealous women. ;)
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Well, envy may be there, but not respect. I didn't want to carve it up. You are kind of insulting principled
feminists, many as capable of whoring themselves out for money as old raisin eye, but choosing to get real jobs and having
a rewarding life instead of being a billionaire groupie until they get "picked"
 
Micawber said:
Well, envy may be there, but not respect. I didn't want to carve it up. You are kind of insulting principled
feminists, many as capable of whoring themselves out for money as old raisin eye, but choosing to get real jobs and having
a rewarding life instead of being a billionaire groupie until they get "picked"
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Envy, no doubt, plays a big part in those hating "gold diggers". Sure, they don't earn respect.

As a lawyer, you must certainly know what it's like to be considered a scumbag vampire sucking the life out of innocent people. So what? You still do it, don't you?

Melania will just turn off the TV and go shopping.
 
How is "First Lady" even a thing?

Does a president have to be a straight married male so that we have a "First Lady?"
Does the Constitution specify the duties of a "First Lady?"
If we actually had an honest, competent, progressive president, I wouldn't care if his wife was a pole dancer or her husband was a masked professional wrestler.

Our president doesn't need to pardon turkeys, hide Easter eggs, light national Christmas trees, or do any of that TV bullshit.
We don't need a charismatic celebrity president.
We need an articulate president with a genuinely elite mind who goes to work every day and does his job.

I don't need a fucking populist president with whom I might enjoy having a beer.
As a matter of fact, none of my friends are the "Joe Six Pack" type anyway.,,obviously.

And if we could get a president that was any good, he/she would be worth a hell of a lot more than a paltry four hundred grand a year.
The minimum wage for an unknown MLB rookie is $563,500.

Also, we don't even have to know who the spouse is until someone points her/him out at a state dinner.
 
Cypress said:
Your garden variety American could not even name what country she is from, nor that it has any connection with a South Slavic linguistic sphere.
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Most Americans probably think she's a little too much like Poles & Russians.

Even though her Slovenia is probably more like Austrians than Poles or Russians.

Although closest obviously to Croats.
 
Phantasmal said:
I’d say the same, but she promoted birtherism and had a Twitter account that made political statements. She was fair game.
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Be that as it may she, unlike Donalds children, she has not been part of an official political role, other than First Lady. You could also make similiar comments about Michelle Obama. Now if you're talking about Hilliary Clinton, who as First Lady, took an official politcial role (i.e health care reform) then I would agree with you.
 
Sailor said:
The single rational lefty on this board. To bad there are not more like you.
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That's because I'm not a lefty or more correctly I'm not a political ideologue. I don't put myself in a box. Now obviously compared to a fire breathing right wing reactionary (whom I despise) I for certain would appear to be a Red flag waving commie pinko liberal. Conversely to post modernist liberals (whom I equally dislike) I'm a brown shirted jack booted NAZI.

If you were going to put me in a box though I probably fit best in the Blue Dog Democrat box as a former Republican moderate (an almost extinct breed now) who was essentially told to leave the GOP.
 
Cypress said:
In principle I agree. But this thread was not about ad hom political attacks. It was about how popular First Ladys are, which is a fair question to ask. First Ladies have a public role, they represent America on the world stage and are expected to take a leading role in charitable, nonpartisan causes. Americans generally have a more favorable view of Laura Bush and Michelle Obama, than they do of Melania Trump. That is a fair measurement of public opinion.
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I here the distinction you are making but I'll stick to my guns. I honestly don't care about her popularity (or any other First Lady). She's not really politically relevant.
 
CASPER said:
Well, while in general I agree, the First Lady does actually perform functions that can and are open to discussion. As for the Children I agree that they should be left out of discussion with one exception, any children that do work in the administration are fair game, meaning trumps oldest children are open game his youngest son is not.
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I absolutely agree with Trumps kids who have been actively and official political participants. They are fair game. His youngest son though is not.
 
Walt said:
RCP does not say the 2016 election was wrong. In the 2016 election, Clinton got 3 million more votes than trump. That is just a fact.

Hardly the least popular woman in history.
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no one said RCP said the election is wrong.......it said you were wrong about her popularity.....and no one has said she was the least popular woman in history.......there was Lucretia Borgia.....Queen Jezebel of Israel......maybe Marie Antionette (though that is probably close
 
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