Nearly 40% of Marines have declined Covid-19 vaccine

Darth Omar said:
Are you a virology denier?

Why should ridiculously healthy young men get vaccinated against a virus that poses practically no risk to them. And if they should happen to get it, it’s ridiculously probable they’ll get it, recover, then add to our herd immunity numbers.
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Darth Omar said:
That’s the million dollar question lol. And kind of the point: no one knows.

Btw, it’s not a virus: it’s a segment of genes [mRNA] that codes for a protein that is similar to the protein found in the Covid spike. No one thinks it ‘reproduces’. You’re also conflating the mRNA gene therapy with traditional actual vaccines when you say ‘the virus or portion of virus has been rendered non-reproductive’.

That’s the way they make the vaccines that no one besides anti-vaxers are hesitant about taking.
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The segment of genes TAKEN FROM THE VIRUS which cause your body to produce similar ones that your immune system will recognze and be on the lookout for.

Soooooooooooo scary!!!!!! :eek:

You're afraid of something but you cannot describe exactly what you're afraid of. :palm:

You don't even know what you think could possibly go wrong.

Are you afraid you'll grow an extra set of ears or a nose in the middle of your forehead?

Maybe an arm will grow out of your chest?

Or a tail will start growing out of your ass?

Conspiracy kooks just look for silly shit to cry wolf about.
 
Nomad said:
The segment of genes TAKEN FROM THE VIRUS which cause your body to produce similar ones that your immune system will recognze and be on the lookout for.

Soooooooooooo scary!!!!!! :eek:

You're afraid of something but you cannot describe exactly what you're afraid of. :palm:

You don't even know what you think could possibly go wrong.

Are you afraid you'll grow an extra set of ears or a nose in the middle of your forehead?

Maybe an arm will grow out of your chest?

Or a tail will start growing out of your ass?

Conspiracy kooks just look for silly shit to cry wolf about.
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Whatever lol.

Come back in five years and we’ll talk about long term side affects or the lack thereof. In the meantime I’ll take your assurance into consideration. Or not.
 
Darth Omar said:
Whatever lol.

Come back in five years and we’ll talk about long term side affects or the lack thereof. In the meantime I’ll take your assurance into consideration. Or not.
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The underlying science behind this procedure has been around for a long time.

If there were any long term effects they would have been seen long ago.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If people are young and in good health they will almost certainly not get sick, if it is also true that they will not spread or will only slightly spread the bug then them getting a vaccine will not help anyone, and carries the unknown risk of these experimental vaccines. Those who would expect to have many decades of life left are actually in these circumstances acting reckless if they allow themselves to be vaccinated.... they might very much regret doing as the so-called experts told them to do.

We are a year and a half in and yet the experts still dont have a good picture of how SARS-COV2 spreads, because they suck. We need to learn more about what is going on before we allow those under 45 to take these jabs.
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2 things wrong with that. You are describing people who most likely, but not assuredly might not get sick, or they will survive it. They are not living in caves by themselves. They are walking amongst us, many of who are more susceptible and in worse shape. Thet can still spread it.
There still are many, many young and healthy people who got it. Some died, some have lingering conditions. So guessing that you are immune is a bad idea. The smart thing to do is get the vaccine as soon as you can.
This is a new variety but not a new disease. They know how it functions.
The worst thing you can do is skip the vaccine.
 
Nomad said:
The underlying science behind this procedure has been around for a long time.

If there were any long term effects they would have been seen long ago.
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Where is the science on long term effects of gene therapy on the kinds of numbers we’re talking about in what amounts to a global trial?

And drop the conspiracy nonsense. No one is suggesting a conspiracy.
 
Darth Omar said:
Whatever lol.

Come back in five years and we’ll talk about long term side affects or the lack thereof. In the meantime I’ll take your assurance into consideration. Or not.
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That's like saying in 1941, don't act, lets first wait five years and see what happens
 
Nordberg said:
2 things wrong with that. You are describing people who most likely, but not assuredly might not get sick, or they will survive it. They are not living in caves by themselves. They are walking amongst us, many of who are more susceptible and in worse shape. Thet can still spread it.
There still are many, many young and healthy people who got it. Some died, some have lingering conditions. So guessing that you are immune is a bad idea. The smart thing to do is get the vaccine as soon as you can.
This is a new variety but not a new disease. They know how it functions.
The worst thing you can do is skip the vaccine.
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You have not punched any holes into my argument. Perhaps you failed to understand it.
 
Darth Omar said:
Where is the science on long term effects of gene therapy on the kinds of numbers we’re talking about in what amounts to a global trial?

And drop the conspiracy nonsense. No one is suggesting a conspiracy.
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What do the numbers have to so with it?

If there are no long term effects for 100 people, 1,000 people or 1,000,000 people, there will be no long term effects for 1 billion people.

And BTW, these kinds of vaccines have been in use world wide for the same amount of time, so your premise is false.

And yes, it IS conspiracy nonsense.

"Thet thar dang ol gub'mint is a-tryin ta git us ta be ginn-ee pigs fer them thar vaxeen thangs!!!!!" :fogey:

:palm:
 
The Big Question here is this: If large numbers of soldiers continue to refuse to do as power desires will they be ordered to take a COVID vaccine?
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
The Big Question here is this: If large numbers of soldiers continue to refuse to do as power desires will they be ordered to take a COVID vaccine?
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Not sure if YOU were ever in the military ... but getting the flu shot was required ... aka as an order.
 
archives said:
That's like saying in 1941, don't act, lets first wait five years and see what happens
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It’s more like saying let’s allow people to make a reasoned decision about what *they choose* to put in their bodies.

What is the Covid mortality rate in the young Marine population, btw?
 
Nomad said:
What do the numbers have to so with it?

If there are no long term effects for 100 people, 1,000 people or 1,000,000 people, there will be no long term effects for 1 billion people.

And BTW, these kinds of vaccines have been in use world wide for the same amount of time, so your premise is false.

And yes, it IS conspiracy nonsense.

"Thet thar dang ol gub'mint is a-tryin ta git us ta be ginn-ee pigs fer them thar vaxeen thangs!!!!!" :fogey:

:palm:
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It’s like you’re trying to draw me into your confusion lol.

These ‘vaccines’ have been around for what, five months? Yes, the mRNA trick has been *studied* longer than that but as a treatment it’s still in its infancy.

Again, get back with us in three years and we’ll discuss either the long term effects or lack thereof. Have Damo save the thread.
 
Darth Omar said:
It’s more like saying let’s allow people to make a reasoned decision about what *they choose* to put in their bodies.

What is the Covid mortality rate in the young Marine population, btw?
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Typical selfish conservative mentality.

Meanwhile the idiots who *choose* not to take the vaccine, risk catching it and spreading it amongst themselves making the time required to end the pandemic even longer.
 
Darth Omar said:
It’s like you’re trying to draw me into your confusion lol.

These ‘vaccines’ have been around for what, five months? Yes, the mRNA trick has been *studied* longer than that but as a treatment it’s still in its infancy.

Again, get back with us in three years and we’ll discuss either the long term effects or lack thereof. Have Damo save the thread.
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What do you think those studies involved????

Human trials!!!!

Geez. :palm:
 
Nomad said:
Typical selfish conservative mentality.

Meanwhile the idiots who *choose* not to take the vaccine, risk catching it and spreading it amongst themselves making the time required to end the pandemic even longer.
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A pandemic is determined by the numbers of global infections.

What if a sufficient number of individuals get vaccinated that it loses its pandemic status? That’s a real possibility, especially when coupled with natural immunity numbers.

Can we go on with our lives then and not be bothered with masks and vaccine busy bodies?
 
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