Never forget: Trump called WWII veterans who died for freedom "losers" and "suckers".

Bulletbob said:
Yes thats true but who heard it whats their names or will they be more anonymous sources with no evidence.
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There are many news articles that reporters keep their sources anonymous, don’t pretend this just happened with Trump. It’s been going on since I started reading new articles, that was in the 70’s. A reporters sources are even protected by shield laws.

Trump himself uses anonymous sources, as I stated, but for some reason, that doesn’t seem to bother you. Why is that?
 
Phantasmal said:
There are many news articles that reporters keep their sources anonymous, don’t pretend this just happened with Trump. It’s been going on since I started reading new articles, that was in the 70’s. A reporters sources are even protected by shield laws.

Trump himself uses anonymous sources, as I stated, but for some reason, that doesn’t seem to bother you. Why is that?
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If only his meth hadn't ruined the insides of his cranium... Even someone as dullwitted as BullshitBob should recall Watergate and "Deep Throat." Of course he probably thinks that's a porn movie. lol
 
Grumpy said:
I too was in college ... and had college student deferments ... so ... TAKE YOUR RETARD SHIT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS ... were YOU even alive at that time ???

BTW ... who is dotard ???
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Yes, I was, sure doesn't seem like you were.

So, why are you jumping on Clinton?

You KNEW he was in college, you went to college and didn't even think to look it up before posting?

Dotard, Kim Jong-un's nickname for Trump, graduated Wharton in 1968.

Clinton went from Oxford to Yale law school in 1969, graduated in 1973.
 
no worries said:
So, why are you jumping on Clinton?
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I wasn't 'jumping on clinton' ... the post was talking about draft deferments and made it sound like bubba ONLY got one. That was false ... and since, like me, you were in college at the time and also got a student deferment. The other idiot thing bubba did was write that ROTC Commander the letter (which of course bubba denied and the unit First Shirt had a copy).

So your defense of bubba and his lack of military experience holds as much water as the non-existant 'blue dress'.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I doubt very much that Trump said what it was claimed he said.

I will require proof.
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Like these suckers and Losers from the left in here will EVER give legit proof on anything. :rolleyes: They wont.....because they cant. :laugh:
 
Stone said:
Like these suckers and Losers from the left in here will EVER give legit proof on anything. :rolleyes: They wont.....because they cant. :laugh:
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I saw something about 6 weeks ago that I took as definitive......the report was that this was yet another lie for sure.

Do you know?
 
I for a long time thought that Trump probably did say it, but in a completely different context than the claim.....in a jokey way like grabbing women by the cunt.

But I recently decided that it almost certainly did not happen at all...Trump never said those words at all.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Donald Trump canceled a visit to pay respects at an American military cemetery outside Paris in 2018 because he thought the dead soldiers were "losers" and "suckers" and he did not want the rain to mess up his hair, according to an explosive new report.
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We quite simply have never had such a disgrace as "president" trump.
 
Grokmaster said:
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Republicans must be desperate to take the "I crapped my pants, now you must pay attention to me" political strategy. Success is not people paying attention to you. It is doing something successful.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
A few notes on the draft and politicians...

About a third of all draftees from WW 2 to Vietnam were rejected for service. The most common reasons were medical issues, followed by incompetence or mental health issues. In some parts of the US up to half of all draftees were rejected. These areas tended to be the deep South and larger urban areas on the East coast.

Most draftees didn't go to Vietnam. Many who did actually volunteered to go once inducted.

So, with respect to the politicians that have gotten national attention for their draft status or military service:

Trump: Got a medical deferment. Like it or not, he got one. I won't comment on the validity of his claim but it was accepted by the military's physicians.
Clinton: Used an ROTC sign up to get a college deferment when he knew he'd be drafted. Once he got it, he dropped ROTC. That is clearly dodging the draft.
Bush II: Used his family connections to get into the Texas Air National Guard. That got him around the draft by being in the National Guard. His performance of duty is a different issue.
Kerry: Signed up for naval service.
Gore: Enlisted in the Army as a journalist.

Of the group, only Clinton was clearly a draft dodger. Trump might be, but there's no proof his medical deferment wasn't legitimate. The others served in one capacity or another.
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Clinton was not drafted, so he could not have dodged the draft. It turned out that he was too old, and had too high of a number. When he discovered he would not be drafted, he dropped ROTC. When Bush discovered he would not be drafted, he dropped the National Guard. Dropping the National Guard is a crime called desertion. Dropping ROTC is a scheduling issue.

Kerry volunteered for the Navy, and to fight in Vietnam. Gore was only one of two members of his graduating class at Harvard to allow himself to be drafted. He did not enlist, he was drafted. He was not drafted as a journalist, but assigned the speciality of combat journalist later.

trump's father paid a doctor to fake a letter about trump being too sick to be drafted.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
And the US military's doctors accepted it.
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The draft board accepted it. Military doctors were not involved. They never had the right to accept or reject it. The draft board is not made up of doctors.

A serious side question: how old are you Gardner?
 
Walt said:
Clinton was not drafted, so he could not have dodged the draft. It turned out that he was too old, and had too high of a number. When he discovered he would not be drafted, he dropped ROTC. When Bush discovered he would not be drafted, he dropped the National Guard. Dropping the National Guard is a crime called desertion. Dropping ROTC is a scheduling issue.

Kerry volunteered for the Navy, and to fight in Vietnam. Gore was only one of two members of his graduating class at Harvard to allow himself to be drafted. He did not enlist, he was drafted. He was not drafted as a journalist, but assigned the speciality of combat journalist later.

trump's father paid a doctor to fake a letter about trump being too sick to be drafted.
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Even Snopes unwittingly admits it trying to say he wasn't.

That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all beyond dispute.
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-draft-pardon/

He was a draft dodger.
 
Sailor said:
And Obama just plain old never had the balls to serve. Nor his children.
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Obama's grandfather who raised him was a veteran of WWII. Biden has two children who volunteered to serve. No member of trump's family has ever served America... Not a single member of his family.
 
Walt said:
The draft board accepted it. Military doctors were not involved. They never had the right to accept or reject it. The draft board is not made up of doctors.

A serious side question: how old are you Gardner?
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When you are inducted, you undergo a complete physical by military doctors. I guess you've never served or you'd know that. You can provide medical evidence from your doctor to them, but they have the final say on your fitness to serve.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's one thing to insult and denigrate another poster. That happens all the time. But there are limits to that and one is not telling another poster they're no better than some Nazi death camp guard flat out.
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This forum is full of trump supporters calling everyone else Nazis and KKK members.
 
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