No one to vote for. Trump has betrayed my trust. What options do I have now?

Matt Dillon said:
TY for fixing the font, but the AI mindrot results point to leftist propaganda sources of which are more numerous than others which
is why it does that, if you understand what I mean. :dunno:
It's GIGO. AI is like a collection of eggshell bots in series, a lot of room for failure in that.
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Even the government can't provide an estimate of how many are here illegally. Instead of putting all resources toward removing the undocumented, how about if we prosecute those who employ them?

Employers rarely face charges for hiring undocumented workers. Why?​

“It’s all consequences for workers, very little consequences for employers," one expert said, describing an imbalance in immigration enforcement.​

 
christiefan915 said:
Even the government can't provide an estimate of how many are here illegally. Instead of putting all resources toward removing the undocumented, how about if we prosecute those who employ them?
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How about BOTH?
christiefan915 said:

Employers rarely face charges for hiring undocumented workers. Why?​

“It’s all consequences for workers, very little consequences for employers," one expert said, describing an imbalance in immigration enforcement.​

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Not anymore! Employers that hire illegal aliens ARE being prosecuted.
 
Damocles said:
Well the issue is simply believing that any President can do more than the one big thing.

With Obama it was the ACA, with Biden it was that useless (and 1984 style naming convention) Inflation Reduction Act. With Trump, who had a plan, it was the One Big Beautiful Bill Plan... the plan was to put every promise into the one bill.... but it got watered down.

One must first understand that Trump does not care about debt. He uses it as a tool in his business and thinks of it in those terms, so if you ever had a goal to end the debt... Trump was never the path to that, it was one of the first things that was thrown overboard when his One Big Beautiful Bill needed something thrown overboard to keep it afloat...
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Duped again...


  • In a March 2016 interview with The Washington Post, Trump said:

    “We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt.”
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    When asked how long it would take, he replied:

    “I would say over a period of eight years.” cite
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  • He also repeatedly spoke about balancing the federal budget “fairly quickly.” cite
  • During the campaign he described himself as the “king of debt,” arguing his business experience would help him manage and reduce national debt. cite
  • His campaign website and speeches also referenced reducing deficits and ensuring policies would not add to the debt. cite

By 2017–2020, however, administration officials and Trump himself softened or walked back the earlier “eliminate the debt” language:


  • White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said the original promise should not have been taken literally because paying off ~$20 trillion in debt quickly was unrealistic. cite
  • Trump’s later budget proposals projected deficits continuing for many years rather than surpluses or debt elimination. One 2020 proposal reportedly would not balance the budget until 2035. cite
 
QP! said:
Duped again...


  • In a March 2016 interview with The Washington Post, Trump said:


    When asked how long it would take, he replied:

  • He also repeatedly spoke about balancing the federal budget “fairly quickly.” cite
  • During the campaign he described himself as the “king of debt,” arguing his business experience would help him manage and reduce national debt. cite
  • His campaign website and speeches also referenced reducing deficits and ensuring policies would not add to the debt. cite

By 2017–2020, however, administration officials and Trump himself softened or walked back the earlier “eliminate the debt” language:


  • White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said the original promise should not have been taken literally because paying off ~$20 trillion in debt quickly was unrealistic. cite
  • Trump’s later budget proposals projected deficits continuing for many years rather than surpluses or debt elimination. One 2020 proposal reportedly would not balance the budget until 2035. cite
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It doesn't matter if he spoke of it, what matters is how he thinks, what his actions show us. The idea that you can depend on someone running for President to "balance the budget" when he uses debt as a tool of business is almost laughable. Because he views debt as a tool which made him willing to toss that out at the very first stressor for his OBBBA.

Each President will get one "big" thing passed... That was his. There will be no more. At least not from him. Now Congress can possibly pass something big that he can sign and jump in front of the parade, but he will not be the source of whatever that might be. We saw that with Newt Gingrich's "Contract With America"...

If Budget changes are in store, that will be the only source, however currently the party is vapidly in love with avoiding being called "RINO" by idiots that think Trump's agenda is the same thing as "republican"...
 
christiefan915 said:
You wrote "Millions of people entered the US without following the proper procedures." Then you followed with "No one knows how many there were."

Maybe it wasn't millions. Maybe it was one million or less. If we don't know we shouldn't throw out the big numbers, which is what trump did just to scare people. And it worked.
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There are no credible estimates that low, are there?
 
Matt Dillon said:
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Thanks for nothing. Could you be any more childish?
 
<°(((=< said:
Millions of people entered the US without following the proper procedures. No one knows how many there were. That's a problem.

The budget deficit is sky-high. It's been rising for decades.
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Then why did Republicans vote down a Bi partisan bill that had some solutions to these problems you seem so hot about yet again?


Because the king of the Republican Party ordered his lackies to do just that because he needed the ISSUE stil fucked up so he could win the 2024 election that was about to take place

PARTY OVER COUNTRY

Like the Republican Party has done all my adult life

Epstein class ass lapping

They go where the biggest check comes from
 
Damocles said:
It doesn't matter if he spoke of it....
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When it comes to you and your never ending defense of Trump we need look no further than that.

That you say 'what Trump promises in campaign mode' (no new wars, no new debt, I will balance the budget, i am America first and will focus on issues of the homeland and not foreign interventionism, etc, etc, ) ... and your reply is 'that none of that matters, and even if Trump turns 180 degrees on each and every one of his promises after getting elected, that when it comes to judging Trump post election Trump gets a pass on ALL OF IT (according to you), as long as you can say his views before running for election were different.

You are arguing a politician and business man, cannot CHANGE and use their experience in the system, that they took advantage of, to try and change the system and that is just dumb and wrong. Maybe few will change and most will lie, but you saying they get a total pass and SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED for those lies, just shows how far you will ALWAYS go to find a way to excuse Trump.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Probably. You know what's childish? Taking your vote and wasting time by pissing it away on for sure losers because you didn't get
everything your way. :BKick:
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I didn't get a lot of what I voted for, either at the federal or state level. If insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result, continuing to vote for liars is insane.
 
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