Officials want to clear a mile-long homeless camp on a Sonoma County bike trail. Some

Walt said:
Or where the US Constitution says US Air Force.
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Quite true. It doesn't say 'Federal Aviation Administration' or 'Federal Communications Commission' either, yet both are constitutional in their creation. Congress is allowed to set standards for things like what frequencies are used for what service, what altitudes aircraft fly at when heading certain directions, screw thread pitch, etc.

It doesn't say 'Patent office' either, even though Congress was specifically directed to protect innovation through the use of patents. Nor does it say U.S. Mint, even though Congress is specifically given the authority to set the value of coin against silver and gold.

Don't see where it says 'CIA' or 'FBI' either, even though Congress is specifically charged with protecting the United States, or U.S. Border Patrol, even though Congress is specifically charged with protecting the borders of our country (part of that guarantee of a republican form of government thing).
 
Into the Night said:
Quite true. It doesn't say 'Federal Aviation Administration' or 'Federal Communications Commission' either, yet both are constitutional in their creation. Congress is allowed to set standards for things like what frequencies are used for what service, what altitudes aircraft fly at when heading certain directions, screw thread pitch, etc.

It doesn't say 'Patent office' either, even though Congress was specifically directed to protect innovation through the use of patents. Nor does it say U.S. Mint, even though Congress is specifically given the authority to set the value of coin against silver and gold.

Don't see where it says 'CIA' or 'FBI' either, even though Congress is specifically charged with protecting the United States, or U.S. Border Patrol, even though Congress is specifically charged with protecting the borders of our country (part of that guarantee of a republican form of government thing).
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Looks to me like Congress should get busy since they were the ones given the authority to do those things. Why do they pass off their responsibilities to someone else.
 
Walt said:
Or where the US Constitution says US Air Force.
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How about food stamps, WIC, social welfare, healthcare, marriage, etc.

Since you argument is that the Air Force shouldn't exist because the Constitution doesn't have those words, let's get rid of all these things.

What's your next argument, gun ownership isn't a right protected by the Constitution?
 
cawacko said:
Not all the homeless are mentally ill but there is a fair number of them. I thought this interesting why there could have been less homeless on the street way back when. They were living in hospitals.


""Deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill has roots in the civil rights and civil liberties movements of the 1960s, which envisioned more fulfilling lives for those who had been languishing in understaffed psychiatric hospitals through new medications and robust community-based services. The number of patients living in state hospitals dropped from 535,000 in 1960 to 137,000 in 1980.""


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK519584/
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I think the homeless referred to in this thread are more a consequence of California morphing into MEXIFORNIA (i.e, the state is being swamped by millions of poor, indigent, illegal Hispanic immigrants from the Southern border) than a reflection of growing numbers of individuals who are homeless due to mental illness.

NB: Deinstitutionalisation of patients with serious mental disorders from the old psychiatric asylums of the 1950's/early 1960's (a healthcare policy which was euphemistically referred to as "Care in the Community" in the UK) was, IMO, largely a cynical cost-cutting measure. It has had, and continues to have, dire consequences for many individuals with moderate to severe psychiatric illnesses (e.g. pyschoses like schizophrenia, pronounced mental retardation or certain externalizing Personality Disorders, like Borderline Personality Disorder, etc).

It's true that during the 1950s and 1960's new antipsychotic drugs like Largactil (chlorpromazine) and anxiolytic agents like Librium (the chemical "father" of Valium) did allow psychiatrists to manage the symptoms of a good portion of their patients with chronic schizophrenia somewhat better. But as for the "robust community support centres", I don't think much ever came of this plan. I mean, a few centres were built but not enough to cope with the numbers of people who needed them. It's still much the same today in that if you have a serious mental condition, unless you have immediate family/relatives who are willing to house you and help care for you, you're basically fucked, and you'll either be: living on the streets, in jail, or dead (before long). It's a very tragic affair.


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CFM said:
How about food stamps, WIC, social welfare, healthcare, marriage, etc.
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What about 'em?
CFM said:
Since you argument is that the Air Force shouldn't exist because the Constitution doesn't have those words, let's get rid of all these things.
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Never made that argument. You are hallucinating again.
CFM said:
What's your next argument, gun ownership isn't a right protected by the Constitution?
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Never made that argument either.
 
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