Oklahoma carried out first execution in six years...

Questions of manmade, intentional loss of human life are so complicated. A person who intentionally kills another person in a moment of passion or while committing another crime should be punished. The state should not be able to end lives as punishment for crimes. Women should be able to manage their own reproductive health.

Narrowed down to this particular execution only, it's simply barbaric. The man was convulsing and vomiting until he finally lost consciousness or died. Oklahoma used a similar method that failed three times causing courts to step in and tell them to stop it. There are 14 countries in the world that allow the death penalty, or about 7% of the total. The US, being as backwards as it is, is of course among them.
 
“Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th,” Trump said in a statement issued over Twitter by his White House social media director Dan Scavino. “I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it’s only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!”

...this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history

Oh my goodness! What a yuge ego! :rofl2:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-election-trump-orderly-transition-20210107-elpnhl65gjgelf2ej7vsdfmbya-story.html
 
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Accidental Renaissance.
 
You put Trump in the same category as them?

I wasn't a fan of Obama, and I sure ain't no fan of Joe & the Ho, but I wouldn't want them publicly hung. My disdain doesn't go that deep (although it might for a few others...).

Were you ever a fan of any Democrat? Say, aren't you a FAN of Donald Trump?

Never mind- I have great intuition!

Fan is not really a good term for one's acceptance of Politicians- unless. of course, you think politics is a sport!

If politics is a sport- I THINK WE NEED SOME REFEREES- because politics is way off from being fair anymore since DOnald Trump came down that escalator in TRUMP TOWER and announced he was running for CZAR of the UNITED STATES.

It's like trying to watch a football game- with no rules being enforced- and no referees to insure it, with the goalposts being moved around however you want them on your side of the field. The clock runs down to zero- But the one that comes up short refuses to acknowledge his loss- no handshakes at midfield after the game is over- JUST FIGHTING AND SHIT-SLINGING FROM THE LOSER- and the loser crying the other side cheated without providing any proof.

Get ready, because when losers can just cry foul and accuse the other side of cheating- and you don't even have to have proof- THIS WILL GO WELL BEYOND POLITICS. WHEN YOU GET BY WITH JUST ACCUSING OTHERS OF CHEATING- YOU WILL START SEEING THIS IN SPORTS AS WELL.

I think we can see exactly why now THE NFL DID NOT WANT DONALD TRUMP TO EVER OWN AN NFL TEAM!

BECAUSE THE NFL WOULD BE RUINED IN THE SAME WAY THAT DONALD TRUMP and his REPUBLICAN RED STATE GOVERNOR SUCK-UPS HAVE RUINED ELECTIONS AND OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS FROM NOW ON!

Donald Trump ruins everything he touches.

Donald Trump would never admit to his team losing a game- as he would accuse minority players of cheating and the Black Referees of being partisan against him and his all WHITE TEAM and start filing lawsuits every time he lost a game and calling other teams being from Shit-hole towns because minorities live there etc.

Donald Trump would only recruit players and coaches who were willing to cheat and lie for him and his team to win!
 
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Maybe if the Executions were Public there would be more of a Condemnation?

Public executions actually became a spectacle. Media exaggerated about the size and volume of crowds. Trinket peddlers hawked buttons and stickers. I would say it's beneath the dignity of humanity, but it's actually a gleeful horror for many average type people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/06/...-there-was-a-reason-they-outlawed-public.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_execution
 
I'm not sure if we're on the same page here, lol. Punishment means real punishment, i.e. the extra 20 years in a small cell. Death means putting the perp out of his future misery.

We're on exactly the same page. The difference is between the state putting to death someone who doesn't want to go and the criminal taking themselves out.

Think Jeffrey Epstein. ;)
 
We're on exactly the same page. The difference is between the state putting to death someone who doesn't want to go and the criminal taking themselves out.

Think Jeffrey Epstein. ;)

With Jeffrey Epstein it was the third option, I believe. :)

Hint: It's neither the state nor a choice. ;)
 
With Jeffrey Epstein it was the third option, I believe. :)

Hint: It's neither the state nor a choice. ;)

Tough call. IMO, I think the conspiracy was to turn off the cameras and look away while Jeffrey took himself out.

He might have had some "psychological help" via a visitor or phone call laying out his options, the probable outcomes for his fate but I think the odds favor he took himself out.

Eventually, I think the truth may come out because there were a few hands in this. Specifically cameras, guards and assignment of inmates.
 
Well, what do you expect when a private American citizen can ride a fucking blue dildo into outer space and start poking holes in our Atmosphere? They're poking holes in our balloon, Jack If you're gonna bitch about Trump, at least butch about that too.

What does that even mean?
 
Questions of manmade, intentional loss of human life are so complicated. A person who intentionally kills another person in a moment of passion or while committing another crime should be punished. The state should not be able to end lives as punishment for crimes. Women should be able to manage their own reproductive health.

Narrowed down to this particular execution only, it's simply barbaric. The man was convulsing and vomiting until he finally lost consciousness or died. Oklahoma used a similar method that failed three times causing courts to step in and tell them to stop it. There are 14 countries in the world that allow the death penalty, or about 7% of the total. The US, being as backwards as it is, is of course among them.

So killing criminals for guilt is wrong, but killing babies for innocence is right?
 
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