Care to make a wager? Trump will step down whether he wants to or not.
Opposing Putin Is Like Pleading For Poison
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Care to make a wager? Trump will step down whether he wants to or not.
Western liberal democracy always has the moral high ground over totalitarianism, fascism, and oligarchy.
That does not prevent us from being introspective about our flaws and crimes
It's a major warm water naval port. Even so, they should have made an arrangement even if it was like Britain with Hong Kong or the US with GITMO.
Why do you think Putin has been covering Assad's ass so much?
BattleofHodow
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Hmm, I'm only arguing the possibility, NOT that it's a certainty.
BattleofHodow
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Going to have to disagree here.
There's no shortages of Capitalist crimes, either.
The British Empire may have starved to death, 60 million in India, alone.
Millions more in Ireland, Persia & Germany during the Blockade during WW1.
That's about 65 million deaths, by starvation by Brits.
Add, another 20 million, in WW1, largely by Capitalist factions.
Add, another 20 million, since WW2, by the USA.
That's upwards of 105 million, killed by Capitalist regimes, by just 3 actions.
But, there's probably far more.
I tend to think some groups are just more volatile.
Germany in WW1 was a Capitalist Democracy, was gassing soldiers, and then in WW2 gassed Jews.
Was it really the switch to Totalitarianism, or that Germans are just more volatile?
Same with Russians, Russia under Putin, is far more Capitalist, than Krushev, or Gorbachev, but not much has changed, in terms of war, murder & mass murder.
As for Brits, they're the worst, and also the most Capitalist & Individualist ethnicity.
I mean, as much as 95% of mass murder tolls in Europe come from just 3 ethnics.
The British, Germans, and Russians, is this really a coincidence?
There seems to be a far stronger correlation, between military supremacy, and a subservient populace to mass murder.
Rather than Communism, or Totalitarianism, which if it plays a role, seems to be only minimal.
because of ACCESS to the Black Sea ( warm water port) and thru the Dardanelles to the Mediterranean and Atlantic.
That is not "nonsense" it explains the haste in which the Little Green Men seized the penninsula
It's possible that the Voltrons will destroy the Earth to make an interstellar bypass, but I strongly doubt it will happen.
BattleofHodow
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It's a major warm water naval port. Even so, they should have made an arrangement even if it was like Britain with Hong Kong or the US with GITMO.
Why do you think Putin has been covering Assad's ass so much?
Russia, could easily build such a port in the Kuban region.
But you should acknowledge first that your insinuation that I am an apologist for Soviet communism or Vladimir Putin was dead wrong, since I provided you unimpeachable evidence that my posting record here is openly, powerfully, and deeply personally anti-Soviet communism.
No, my grandmother, father, aunt, et al are not responsible for Vladimir Lenin or the Gulag.
No, I am not responsible for Trump.
BattleofHodow
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Actually, a Civil War, is a realistic possibility.
You are just very ignorant & arrogant.
glad you got that much -it'sRussia only Blue Water Access, except the Pacific, which Russia doesn't use much for naval ops, except to extract Arctic mineral wealth.
The problem is Poroshenko would not guarantee the lease -and this wasn't the first time!
Russia, Ukraine agree on naval-base-for-gas deal - 2010 ( before the Euromaidan)
https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/04/21/russia.ukraine/index.html
Ukraine and Russia had been at odds ever since the "Orange Revolution" swept Yanukovych's anti-Russian predecessor Viktor Yushchenko to power in 2005.
Throughout his time in office, Yushchenko repeatedly threatened to expel Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol. The Russian military lease there was scheduled to expire in 2017.
with the Euromaidan tearing up this agreement, and the Kyiv faction firmly in power in Ukraine -Putin had no choice
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BattleofHodow
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Why should've Ukraine agreed to Russian demands, in the first place?
Given the Crimean invasion & War in Donbass, Ukrainians have every right to be wary of Russia.
It was a vastly large naval station worth billions, maybe a trillion or two. There may have been some topographical issues too. Either way, Putin should have cut a deal instead of just killing more people, but that's the type of murderous prick he is.
I think the draft is too shallow. there is no natural port like Sevastopol either
But for whatever reason Sevastopol is their home fleet, and building a port in the meantime would take years and leave Russia unable to get out of the Black Sea
BattleofHodow
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Holy sh(t bro, 3 people were killed in the Invasion of Crimea.
Meanwhile, you support Israel, which has killed 100,000 Arabs (Palestinians) since it's start.
Do, you have a brain, of your own, or just do what Jews tell you to do?
There was ALREADY A DEAL, but Ukraine terminated it -how could Putin have made a deal when the deal they had -generous to Uk.- when Poeoshenko rode into Office based on ant-iRussian feelings?.
Poroshenko was a westerner ( Kyiv faction) and did not want to deal -so much so he tore up the existing deal
( link I published above)
your timeline is mixed up.
Crimea annexation happened before Donbass war -AND THERE WAS ALREADY A DEAL!!.
Ukraine renniged on the deal when Poroshenko took over
BattleofHodow
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Like the Yushchenko poisoning? By who Russians?
Like the Yanukovych Russian language bill?
Yanukovych fled to Russia, like a Putin puppet, during Euro-Maiden.
Why should've Ukrainians felt, or even more so now feel poisitive about Russians?
BattleofHodow
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Where did I say, otherwise?
The war in Donbass & Crimean Invasions, ONLY prove Ukraine right to be suspicious of Russia.
Putin is a dumb volatile goof, if he was smart, he would unite, NOT divide Eastern Europe.