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Dutch Uncle said:
The Good News is twofold: More Republicans are side-stepping away from Trump and multiple investigations are drawing to a close with multiple charges against TrumpCo expected to be filed.
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Yup.

And although I once held the position that a former president ought not to be sent to prison (something that happens in Banana Republics)...I now feel that the only way to bolster the integrity of our Republic is for Trump and his main cronies to pay that price.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yup.

And although I once held the position that a former president ought not to be sent to prison (something that happens in Banana Republics)...I now feel that the only way to bolster the integrity of our Republic is for Trump and his main cronies to pay that price.
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you're a tyrant. we know.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Yup.

And although I once held the position that a former president ought not to be sent to prison (something that happens in Banana Republics)...I now feel that the only way to bolster the integrity of our Republic is for Trump and his main cronies to pay that price.
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TBH, I doubt Trump will ever be inside a jail except to visit one of his kids. He may, however, effectively be under house arrest at Mar-a-Lago for the rest of his life.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
TBH, I doubt Trump will ever be inside a jail except to visit one of his kids. He may, however, effectively be under house arrest at Mar-a-Lago for the rest of his life.
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I'd be satisfied with house arrest for him...and prison for the fools who did his bidding. But not at Mar-a-Lago. It should be house arrest under conditions other than luxury...or even close to luxury.
 
Earl said:
Trump, Trump, Trump...Trump!
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Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
 
Frank Apisa said:
I'd be satisfied with house arrest for him...and prison for the fools who did his bidding. But not at Mar-a-Lago. It should be house arrest under conditions other than luxury...or even close to luxury.
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Mar-a-Lago is his home. While I agree it's not very harsh, it's probably the best justice that can be had in an nation divided by anti-Americans seeking to overthrow our government and shred our Constitution which is why he won't go to prison or stashed in a safe house in Albuquerque.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Oh, you "give a shit."
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No, dippy, I really don't...

And more than likely, you realize how devoid of humanity you actually are.
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You keep saying this, yet you continue to only prove how big a failure you are in that you cannot describe how. Are you saying I have no humanity because I have money? Are you saying I lack humanity because I don't give money away? Thus far, you've provided no compelling reason to believe a single thing you say.I could sit here and call you a racist and an anti-semite but, if I don't explain why I believe you're a racist, that charge carries zero weight.

Much like your charge that I have no humanity..

You think of success in terms of money.
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No, I don't.

How am I successful? I have a loving family and wonderful friends. I have a daughter who I raised as a single dad who is wildly successful in her own right. I have two businesses which I'm proud to own, and I'm proud to have employees who enjoy working with me. I would view these as successes regardless of whether I was rich or poor.

Do I have money? Yes, I do. You seem to see money as a bad thing and, for whatever reason, you believe only bad people have it. But money allows us to do certain things that cannot be done without money. Like charitable contributions, which I make personally and through my companies. It allows the sponsorship of a summer camp for underprivileged kids in northeastern Florida, so they can get out of some pretty bad neighborhoods and out into the Florida wilderness and they don't have to pay a dime to do it. It allows for contributions to our local women's shelter and the local no kill animal shelter, as well as to monetary support for a local big cat rescue preserve.

So, yeah, fuck you and your "no humanity" bullshit...

I do find it entertaining, though, that you think I should be jealous of you. Fact is, that would be like being jealous of someone for having leprosy.
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Oh, I don't believe for a second that you'd ever have the balls to admit it, but you are. You hate people who have money for no other reason than you don't have it. That, sadly, isn't an uncommon thing...

In any case, your lack of humanity is self-evident...and trying to explain it to you would be like trying to explain what blue is to a blind person.
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Look at you, failing twice in the same post. You can't explain how it is I have no humanity. Your senile old ass just hopes that if you say it enough it'll become true.

Well, it won't. That's not how reality works...
 
Street Glider said:
No, dippy, I really don't...
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Oh, sure you care. Why else would you be responding? You care a lot.


You keep saying this, yet you continue to only prove how big a failure you are in that you cannot describe how. Are you saying I have no humanity because I have money? Are you saying I lack humanity because I don't give money away? Thus far, you've provided no compelling reason to believe a single thing you say.I could sit here and call you a racist and an anti-semite but, if I don't explain why I believe you're a racist, that charge carries zero weight.
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As I said, trying to explain to you why you are devoid of humanity is like trying to explain what "blue" is to a blind person.




No, I don't.

How am I successful? I have a loving family and wonderful friends. I have a daughter who I raised as a single dad who is wildly successful in her own right. I have two businesses which I'm proud to own, and I'm proud to have employees who enjoy working with me. I would view these as successes regardless of whether I was rich or poor.
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Yeah, you actually do. Read your posts.

Do I have money? Yes, I do. You seem to see money as a bad thing and, for whatever reason, you believe only bad people have it. But money allows us to do certain things that cannot be done without money. Like charitable contributions, which I make personally and through my companies. It allows the sponsorship of a summer camp for underprivileged kids in northeastern Florida, so they can get out of some pretty bad neighborhoods and out into the Florida wilderness and they don't have to pay a dime to do it. It allows for contributions to our local women's shelter and the local no kill animal shelter, as well as to monetary support for a local big cat rescue preserve.
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I do not see money as a bad thing. My sister and her husband could probably buy and sell you...and my best friend is very rich. But they are not as devoid of humanity as you.

You having money is not the reason I have said what I have. The fact that you obviously are of the "I've got mine, fuck you" school is the reason for that.

Try to calm down a bit...and we can discuss it like men...rather than you ranting like a child.

So, yeah, fuck you and your "no humanity" bullshit...
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Okay...but you are devoid of humanity.



Oh, I don't believe for a second that you'd ever have the balls to admit it, but you are. You hate people who have money for no other reason than you don't have it. That, sadly, isn't an uncommon thing...
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Still patting yourself on the back and supposing I am jealous of you, when my regard for you is better characterized as pity. You deserve the pity. I simply do not engage in envy or jealousy...which you would not deserve in any case.


Look at you, failing twice in the same post. You can't explain how it is I have no humanity. Your senile old ass just hopes that if you say it enough it'll become true.

Well, it won't. That's not how reality works...
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Tsk, tsk. Still allowing your tight, wadded panties to interfere with reasonable discourse.

Stick around. You'll either get over that...or look more the fool than you already do.

So anyway...about the color "blue"...well...oh, wait. You are not blind...at least not in the conventional sense. You are just blind to why I call your attention to your lack of humanity.

"Blue" I can explain to you...but "your lack of humanity"...well...that takes more doing.

You are fun. I am enjoying this more than you can imagine.

;)
 
danielpalos said:
The bottom line should be that Labor has to be able to afford our allegedly first world economy.
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Agreed. It's a symbiotic relationship like Yin-Yang; Management and Labor need each other to survive. If one becomes too dominant, then the system breaks down. Something we've seen in the US since the 1980s.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. It's a symbiotic relationship like Yin-Yang; Management and Labor need each other to survive. If one becomes too dominant, then the system breaks down. Something we've seen in the US since the 1980s.
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Full employment of resources in any given market sector should result in a more efficient market sector. Given that rational capitalism based assumption, is it reasonable to assume that solving simple poverty via equal protection of our own at-will employment laws for unemployment compensation would be a simple metric for the private sector?

In other words, let's say Congress fixes the Standard for the hypothetical unemployment compensation "wage", it would be simple for the private sector to study whether raising wages or automation is the more cost effective alternative.

The bottom line is that our economy is automatically stabilized through equal protection of our own laws.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
Oh, sure you care. Why else would you be responding? You care a lot.
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Because I find idiots like you rather fascinating...

As I said, trying to explain to you why you are devoid of humanity is like trying to explain what "blue" is to a blind person.
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What a cowardly cop-out.

You're such a pussy...

Yeah, you actually do. Read your posts.
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I have. I've also reread yours. You know, all those posts in which you demonstrate how big a failure you are?

I do not see money as a bad thing.
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Liar...

My sister and her husband could probably buy and sell you...
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LOLOL!!! Yeah, well, probably not...

and my best friend is very rich.
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I think it's funny how you try to impress with the alleged fact that you know other people who have money...

But they are not as devoid of humanity as you.
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I'm a pretty smart guy. I built up two successful businesses from the ground up, and have been operating one of them for 20 years. So, try me. Tell me how I'm devoid of humanity, or there will be no reason to believe that you're anything but a sorry old Alzheimer's patient who shits his diaper and drools...

You having money is not the reason I have said what I have.
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Sure it is, liar...

The fact that you obviously are of the "I've got mine, fuck you" school is the reason for that.
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Again, you seem to think that, because I don't want to pay someone to do nothing that I'm a bad guy. Well, whatever. I know what I do. I know the charitable contributions I and my companies make. I know what I've done for employees who've hit hard times. I know that out of 158 employees not a single one of them earns minimum wage.

Here's what you see as my lack of humanity: If someone asks me for help, and they really need help, I'll bend over six ways to Sunday to help them. But if someone demands something from me, simply because they think they should have it, or they give me some kind of ultimatum, they'll be gone in a New York minute. If that's what you see as my lack of humanity (and it is), well, I don't give a fuck, dipshit. You're obviously too old, senile and dense to understand that. You've likely led a life where you were handed everything; but you were still a spoiled little pissant who wasn't hugged enough as a child...

Try to calm down a bit...and we can discuss it like men...rather than you ranting like a child.
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Sorry, gramps, but you've already demonstrated that you don't want to discuss it. You've claimed I was without humanity and, when I asked you (multiple times) why you believed that, you tucked your tail between your legs instead of simply explaining your comment. So you're lying when you say you want to discuss it. You don't want to discuss it. You're afraid to. You're just a cowardly bag of wrinkled skin and a waste of oxygen...

Okay...but you are devoid of humanity.
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You're a racist...

You are fun. I am enjoying this more than you can imagine.
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Of course you are. You have no real friends to converse with...
 
Street Glider said:
Because I find idiots like you rather fascinating...



What a cowardly cop-out.

You're such a pussy...



I have. I've also reread yours. You know, all those posts in which you demonstrate how big a failure you are?



Liar...



LOLOL!!! Yeah, well, probably not...



I think it's funny how you try to impress with the alleged fact that you know other people who have money...



I'm a pretty smart guy. I built up two successful businesses from the ground up, and have been operating one of them for 20 years. So, try me. Tell me how I'm devoid of humanity, or there will be no reason to believe that you're anything but a sorry old Alzheimer's patient who shits his diaper and drools...



Sure it is, liar...



Again, you seem to think that, because I don't want to pay someone to do nothing that I'm a bad guy. Well, whatever. I know what I do. I know the charitable contributions I and my companies make. I know what I've done for employees who've hit hard times. I know that out of 158 employees not a single one of them earns minimum wage.

Here's what you see as my lack of humanity: If someone asks me for help, and they really need help, I'll bend over six ways to Sunday to help them. But if someone demands something from me, simply because they think they should have it, or they give me some kind of ultimatum, they'll be gone in a New York minute. If that's what you see as my lack of humanity (and it is), well, I don't give a fuck, dipshit. You're obviously too old, senile and dense to understand that. You've likely led a life where you were handed everything; but you were still a spoiled little pissant who wasn't hugged enough as a child...



Sorry, gramps, but you've already demonstrated that you don't want to discuss it. You've claimed I was without humanity and, when I asked you (multiple times) why you believed that, you tucked your tail between your legs instead of simply explaining your comment. So you're lying when you say you want to discuss it. You don't want to discuss it. You're afraid to. You're just a cowardly bag of wrinkled skin and a waste of oxygen...



You're a racist...



Of course you are. You have no real friends to converse with...
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The establishment created boomers, a generation of people for whom the system always worked.

THese people will throw their own grandchildren under the bus to maintain their lifestyle.
 
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