The Democrats witness dilemma

[Darth Omar]

whatever you say floridanut, whatever you say.

sooner or later it will sink in, but I suppose when your head is as big as yours is it might take some time

end game, you can almost see Democrat votes being sucked out of the system as this charade plays on and on and on

please continue

This certainly isn’t the world-stopper the last two modern era impeachments were lol.

Actually, there’s like a weird disconnect going around it: Trump scored two significant victories just over the past days; one with the Phase One China deal and the trade deal. The stock market certainly doesn’t care about it since it’s been setting records. The economy is unaffected by it.

That’s not even counting taking out Soleimani and kicking the mullahs in the nuts.

Things [and Trump] just keep plugging right along in spite of the impeachment* and I’m sure millions of voters are aware of it if only for the health of their 401K’s.

 

[dukkha]

This certainly isn’t the world-stopper the last two modern era impeachments were lol.

Actually, there’s like a weird disconnect going around it: Trump scored two significant victories just over the past days; one with the Phase One China deal and the trade deal. The stock market certainly doesn’t care about it since it’s been setting records. The economy is unaffected by it.

That’s not even counting taking out Soleimani and kicking the mullahs in the nuts.

Things [and Trump] just keep plugging right along in spite of the impeachment* and I’m sure millions of voters are aware of it if only for the health of their 401K’s.

zero minutes of the 3 networks newz reports on the signing of NAFTA 2 (USMCA) yesterday.
The largest trade agreement ever signed by the US and it doesn't even make the network news?? WTF?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

It's a slam dunk acquittal if Jesus testified against Trump.

The Bidens, if called, will testify.

The trade off for Mitch is that he will have to call Bolton and Parnas and Pompeo and Nunes as well if he wants the Bidens.

Just because your side is so partisan doesn't mean my side is. I believe in the system but when it comes to these articles of impeachment well put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig.

 

[Darth Omar]

zero minutes of the 3 networks newz reports on the signing of NAFTA 2 (USMCA) yesterday.
The largest trade agreement ever signed by the US and it doesn't even make the network news?? WTF?

Textbook Bubble lol.

The Democrat media thinks that all anyone thinks about—all the time, is impeachment. So they don’t talk about anything else.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Then why are democrats balking at it lol?

For the most part...Democrats are NOT balking at it.

But what could the Bidens possibly contribute to the issue? If both were getting bribes...or robbing banks in Ukraine...that would have absolutely NOTHING whatever to do with the impeachment trial.

And what could the whistle blower or Schiff possibly have to say about whether Trump committed the offenses he is charged with?

If they had nothing to fear from putting Biden/WB/Schiff under oath, the proper response would be ‘fine, whatever, let’s just do this’ but they are making noise about it instead.

Not anywhere near as much noise as the Republicans are making about people who actually have information about the subject issue.

What’s your rationalization for that, Frank?

Rationalization is something the Trump defenders have to do...not our side, Darth.

Look...you and everyone here realizes that Trump is totally unfit for the office...and that he is as dirty as a pig sty. BUT...he is going to be acquitted no matter what. McConnell, who pretty much has the final say on this...has GUARANTEED you people that.

So what is YOUR rationalization for not being willing to hear from people who actually know the information?

 

[Teflon Don]

From now to the day Trump is convicted by the Senate you may continue to live in your own dream world of fantasy and lies. It don't mean sht to anyone.

you can't really believe he will be convicted in the Senate do you?

 

[floridafan]

you can't really believe he will be convicted in the Senate do you?

Anything is possible.

 

[Earl]

The Republican Senate will determine witnesses, if any are called.

The House could have called them.

Too late now.

 

[Darth Omar]

For the most part...Democrats are NOT balking at it.

But what could the Bidens possibly contribute to the issue? If both were getting bribes...or robbing banks in Ukraine...that would have absolutely NOTHING whatever to do with the impeachment trial.

And what could the whistle blower or Schiff possibly have to say about whether Trump committed the offenses he is charged with?

Not anywhere near as much noise as the Republicans are making about people who actually have information about the subject issue.

Rationalization is something the Trump defenders have to do...not our side, Darth.

Look...you and everyone here realizes that Trump is totally unfit for the office...and that he is as dirty as a pig sty. BUT...he is going to be acquitted no matter what. McConnell, who pretty much has the final say on this...has GUARANTEED you people that.

So what is YOUR rationalization for not being willing to hear from people who actually know the information?

Different than the your rationalization about why Democrats wouldn’t wait on Bolton’s testimony before voting lol?

Look, Frank, people aren’t idiots. It’s patently obvious democrats were in a hurry to impeach Trump for purely partisan purposes. They have to be blithering idiots to buy the crap ‘oh, but Trump might commit more crimes if we don’t hurry’.

Only to watch Pelosi put a halt to the whole process after the Democrats got their Trump impeachment.

The hurry/not hurry bit is so easy to see through it’s pathetic. My ‘rationalization’ is that the Senate is by no means required to do what the House refused to do.

Which is call Bolton to testify. Or anyone else. If Democrats deemed the articles worthy of being passed, that implies they had all they needed and were ready for trial.

Let’s have it.

 

[Earl]

Anything is possible.

You’ve already posted that the Senate will convict.

Saved.

 

[floridafan]

You’ve already posted that the Senate will convict.

Saved.

Really? Prove it or STFU

 

[Teflon Don]

Anything is possible.

you think you have 20 Republican Senators?

I will give you the three standard republican traitors; Collins, Murkuntski and Pierre Delecto. Maybe Alexander that old fossilized fuck. But who else ya got?

 

[jimmymccready]

Just because your side is so partisan doesn't mean my side is. I believe in the system but when it comes to these articles of impeachment well put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig.

That is a good description of the Trump partisans. The articles are solid, and the indictments that are waiting for Trump when he leaves office are even more so.

 

[Getin the ring]

That is a good description of the Trump partisans. The articles are solid, and the indictments that are waiting for Trump when he leaves office are even more so.

I feel so bad for those around you, mostly your family,

That you will harbor this hate inside you for 5 more years, and then cheer for the hacks to still chase trump even after he's served two terms and fixed the country

you're a tiny little troll, nothing more

 

[PostmodernProphet]

ONLY, because trump was caught by the whistleblower.

if he was caught doing something illegal the House should have presented some evidence of it.....

 

[Ross Dolan]

Different than the your rationalization about why Democrats wouldn’t wait on Bolton’s testimony before voting lol?

Huh??????????

Look, Frank, people aren’t idiots.

Ummm...rather a general statement. Some ARE, Darth. Trump, for instance, is.

It’s patently obvious democrats were in a hurry to impeach Trump for purely partisan purposes. They have to be blithering idiots to buy the crap ‘oh, but Trump might commit more crimes if we don’t hurry’.

It is patently obvious all politicians are willing to stretch the truth in order to further their objectives.

Trump on the other hand lies about damn near everything...for almost no reason other than that he is a liar.

Only to watch Pelosi put a halt to the whole process after the Democrats got their Trump impeachment.

Oh...you think she has halted?

Okay.

The hurry/not hurry bit is so easy to see through it’s pathetic. My ‘rationalization’ is that the Senate is by no means required to do what the House refused to do.

Okay...thanks for sharing that. Now I'm interested in why the Republican senators are against doing it. Hell...The Leader has assured them that he has done nothing wrong. So...only exculpatory evidence is out there...and no damaging evidence.

Right?

Which is call Bolton to testify. Or anyone else. If Democrats deemed the articles worthy of being passed, that implies they had all they needed and were ready for trial.

As I said...the Republican senators can make the Democrats look like goddam fools...by just bringing in people like John Bolton, Mick Mulveney, and Mike Duffy. They will all swear under oath that Trump is as pure as new-fallen snow.

Right?

Let’s have it.

Yup...let's have it.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

That is a good description of the Trump partisans. The articles are solid, and the indictments that are waiting for Trump when he leaves office are even more so.

One article may be valid and that is the phone call. The other one is total BS that any president could be impeached for it is so fucking vague.

 

[Earl]

Really? Prove it or STFU

floridafan posted:

“From now to the day Trump is convicted by the Senate you may continue to live in your own dream world of fantasy and lies. It don't mean sht to anyone.”

You can’t even remember your posts from an hour ago.

 

[jimmymccready]

jimmymccready
That is a good description of the Trump partisans. The articles are solid, and the indictments that are waiting for Trump when he leaves office are even more so.

I feel so bad for those around you, mostly your family,

That you will harbor this hate inside you for 5 more years, and then cheer for the hacks to still chase trump even after he's served two terms and fixed the country

you're a tiny little troll, nothing more

My family, some who vote Trump, love me dearly and would despise your one-headed no-depth trolling hate for others not like you.

Hate the crimes, love the criminal, and eventually Trump will come into the criminal system where he and his followers can get the help they need.

 

[jimmymccready]

One article may be valid and that is the phone call. The other one is total BS that any president could be impeached for it is so fucking vague.

As usual you have no idea about what you are writing. Trump WAS IMPEACHED. Happy IMPEACHMAS.