This is historic

I think Trump is an incredible embarrassment for the United States. I do not now nor have I ever thought Trump was an honorable human being, I question if he is indeed human. But...I truly hope he does so much good for this country even I have to admit the world is a better place because of him. A great US and world economy and peace on the Korean peninsula would be a great start.
 
Nomad said:
I wouldn't be shocked to learn that this whole playing nice thing by Kim is part of an elaborate plot to get Trump over in the region where they can launch a missile attack and kill him along with anyone else unfortunate enough to be there at the time. Or possibly shoot down AF1 as it's landing.
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That would be Kim playing ‘death by cop’ on a global scale.

By now it’s safe to assume Kim doesn’t want suicide.
 
noise said:
i see you don't get an allegory..results matter..talk is cheap...we'll see
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No, I got it. It just sucked as an allegory.

Given that Trump likely only made it through business school on the back of his daddy's contributions, to suggest even allegorically that Trump could cure cancer is patently absurd. You might have posited the notion that Trump could bring about 100% employment or something else not quite as not-even-remotely-possible as him curing anything medically related, much less cancer.
 
Nomad said:
No, I got it. It just sucked as an allegory.

Given that Trump likely only made it through business school on the back of his daddy's contributions, to suggest even allegorically that Trump could cure cancer is patently absurd. You might have posited the notion that Trump could bring about 100% employment or something else not quite as not-even-remotely-possible as him curing anything medically related, much less cancer.
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you say you get it, but you're still arguing against the allegory. Throw out the allegory then.

You can see by your's and other TDS crowd posts on this very thread ( and all over the board)
the TDS crowd doesn't care about results - just hating Trump.. enjoy.
 
noise said:
indeed. don't look for the TDS crowd to give Trumo any credit -
but clearly the MAXIMUM PRESSURE CAMPAIGN brought kim un to the table .
Obama's "strategic patience" was a hands off approach.

Trump worked the UN and sanctions, and got China to get serious with their banking system etc.

I have serious doubts where this goes -but I'm hopeful for a verified process of denuke.
It would not be happening without Trump -even Moon says so
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Pretty much everyone outside the TDS Bubble accepts the facts for what they are.

At any rate, I have doubts as well but this isn’t NK business as usual either. I don’t think I’m being delusional in saying there’s legitimate grounds for optimism.
 
noise said:
you say you get it, but you're still arguing against the allegory. Throw out the allegory then.

You can see by your's and other TDS crowd posts on this very thread ( and all over the board)
the TDS crowd doesn't care about results - just hating Trump.. enjoy.
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What supposed "results" are you talking about? :dunno:
 
noise said:
ROFL.
"Trump could cure cancer and they'd complain he's putting doctors out of business"
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If Donald Trump came up with a cure for cancer...I would say that he came up with a cure for cancer...

...AND that he is still the most classless, ignorant, disgusting persons ever to hold the presidency...with the possible exception of the president he holds in such high esteem, Andrew Jackson.

Donald Trump is an abomination; a man who gives credence to the worst thoughts of people around the world who hold American in scorn and contempt.

He will always be that...even if he were to invent a perpetual motion machine...or a renewable, extremely low cost source of electric power.

He is a man with no class...little knowledge and even less interest in actually learning.
 
Frank Apisa said:
If Donald Trump came up with a cure for cancer...I would say that he came up with a cure for cancer...

...AND that he is still the most classless, ignorant, disgusting persons ever to hold the presidency...with the possible exception of the president he holds in such high esteem, Andrew Jackson.

Donald Trump is an abomination; a man who gives credence to the worst thoughts of people around the world who hold American in scorn and contempt.

He will always be that...even if he were to invent a perpetual motion machine...or a renewable, extremely low cost source of electric power.

He is a man with no class...little knowledge and even less interest in actually learning.
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jebus Frank..change your rant. that one is stale
 
noise said:
you say you get it, but you're still arguing against the allegory. Throw out the allegory then.

You can see by your's and other TDS crowd posts on this very thread ( and all over the board)
the TDS crowd doesn't care about results - just hating Trump.. enjoy.
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The "under Trump's spell" crowd doesn't care about causality or complex reasoning. They just think Trump.
 
Hello noise,

noise said:
hello back
I suggest you research what the "Maximum pressure" campaign entails.

It's a UN/China (Russia?) and interested partys campaign to starve NK of money and access to banking.

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/north-korea-maximum-pressure-campaign
WASHINGTON (Sinclair Broadcast Group) — President Donald Trump ratcheted up his administration's "maximum pressure campaign" this week by re-designating North Korea a state sponsor of terrorism and imposing new economic sanctions on four Chinese shipping companies and over a dozen North Korean entities and shipping vessels. The timing of the penalties is significant, falling on the heels of Trump's visit to Beijing and a high-level Chinese visit to Pyongyang.

The new sanctions, announced by the Treasury Department on Tuesday singled out entities that previously avoided being targeted by the U.S., the shipping vessels and shipping companies that were able to transit goods to and from North Korea, providing a critical economic lifeline.
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Sinclair = Propaganda = Biased source rejected.

I am not really interested in reading anything from Sinclair. Don't you know that is pure propaganda? Sinclair = TMN = Trump Mouthpiece Network.

If you have something from a main stream news feed, say Reuters or AP that claims Trump did all of this, and that Obama was doing nothing, then I'll read that. Good luck finding it.

I am happy to discuss issues, views, interpretations, positions, etc, but I don't see much point in arguing facts. Nobody is entitled to their own facts. Not you, not Sinclair, nobody.

President Trump deserves credit for placing much of the same pressure on NK that the US has done for decades. Aside from some childish boasting and undermining his own Sec of State, I really don't see anything noteworthy about his leadership. Trump is a well known attention hog willing to take credit for anything which will give him good ratings, and notoriously quiet about anything which hurts his image.

Classic example: Market goes up = Trump tweets as if he is responsible. Market goes down = Trump twitter account remarkable silent.
 
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PoliTalker said:
Hello noise,



Sinclair = Propaganda = Biased source rejected.

I am not really interested in reading anything from Sinclair. Don't you know that is pure propaganda? Sinclair = TMM = Trump Mouthpiece Network.

If you have something from a main stream news feed, say Reuters or AP that claims Trump did all of this, and that Obama was doing nothing, then I'll read that. Good luck finding it.

I am happy to discuss issues, views, interpretations, positions, etc, but I don't see much point in arguing facts. Nobody is entitled to their own facts. Not you, not Sinclair, nobody.

President Trump deserves credit for placing much of the same pressure on NK that the US has done for decades. Aside from some childish boasting and undermining his own Sec of State, I really don't see anything noteworthy about his leadership. Trump is a well known attention hog willing to take credit for anything which will give him good ratings, and notoriously quiet about anything which hurts his image.

Classic example: Market goes up = Trump tweets as if he is responsible. Market goes down = Trump twitter account remarkable silent.
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there are lots of sources..goggle "maximum pressure" Trump / Korea.

Compare that to Obama's "strategic patience" / Korea
 
Did the North pull their weapons trained on Seoul back? I missed that. All those rockets removed. Must make the South very happy.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello noise,



Sinclair = Propaganda = Biased source rejected.

I am not really interested in reading anything from Sinclair. Don't you know that is pure propaganda? Sinclair = TMM = Trump Mouthpiece Network.

If you have something from a main stream news feed, say Reuters or AP that claims Trump did all of this, and that Obama was doing nothing, then I'll read that. Good luck finding it.

I am happy to discuss issues, views, interpretations, positions, etc, but I don't see much point in arguing facts. Nobody is entitled to their own facts. Not you, not Sinclair, nobody.

President Trump deserves credit for placing much of the same pressure on NK that the US has done for decades. Aside from some childish boasting and undermining his own Sec of State, I really don't see anything noteworthy about his leadership. Trump is a well known attention hog willing to take credit for anything which will give him good ratings, and notoriously quiet about anything which hurts his image.

Classic example: Market goes up = Trump tweets as if he is responsible. Market goes down = Trump twitter account remarkable silent.
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Where were you last summer or fall when the media was hyperventilating about Trump getting us into a nuke exchange with NK lol?

Does the term ‘credible threat’ mean anything to you?
 
anatta said:
jebus Frank..change your rant. that one is stale
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Not stale at all. Give it a few more months...then maybe we can talk. Although by then, I will probably incorporate changes... mostly synonyms, though. Revolting, repulsive, nauseating, ill-informed, boorish, rude, ill-mannered, impolite, loutish and worthless prick all come to mind right now.

Thanks for mentioning that I might be getting stale, though. Keeps me on my toes.
 
Hmmmmm...

Remember, this is the guy who poisoned his half brother and executed his uncle with wild dogs and another top figure with anti-aircraft weapons.

The man simple has no incentive to (or history of) keep promises.

Odd to watch people pretend that they're doing this because of Trump, when in fact it's despite Trump.
 
CharacterAssassin said:
Hmmmmm...

Remember, this is the guy who poisoned his half brother and executed his uncle with wild dogs and another top figure with anti-aircraft weapons.

The man simple has no incentive to (or history of) keep promises.

Odd to watch people pretend that they're doing this because of Trump, when in fact it's despite Trump.
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He’s never had an incentive to keep promises before.

What’s the worst thing Bush or Obama would do?
 
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