"Trump claims Biden is 'against God' and will 'hurt the Bible"

The bible absolutely can be cherry-picked and bent. It is written in parable form and is imprecise enough to allow interpretation. It , to some, demands handling poisonous snakes. The wealthy think it justifies wealth as they are chosen to be rich by god. Same thing for slavery and war. The bible can be used for contrary positions and both will be absolutely certain they are correct.

I meant the bible should not be cherry picked by amateurs of average intelligence, for the reasons I articulated in my previous post
 
You are not reading what the scripture says.

The scripture was not written in English.

The NT was written in ancient Greek and the OT was written in ancient Hebrew, neither of which you can read.

Any translation, including a vernacular English translation, is a pale imitation of the original language the scripture were written in - and translations never are 100 percent successful and accurate at capturing the meaning and intent of the original language.

That is why trained theologians spend years at colleges and seminary studying theology and frequently becoming familiar with Greek and Latin.

The bible is not something that can be cherry picked for quotes. And I believe it is a dubious proportion to expect a person of average intelligence, reading a 20th century English translation of ancient Greek, to really become a theological expert on the meaning and intent of ancient scripture

That will not stop them from trying though. I wonder how many of them stop to think that when they go to church/Sunday school, that what they are being taught is that particular minister's interpretation or idea of what a particular passage really means. It would be one thing to attend a lecture by one of the Biblical scholars you referred to, wherein he/she discusses particular verses in both the context of that entire passage but also in the context of the time and the world in which they were written. His interpretation would at least be backed by years of study and knowledge of the original language(s). Many of the evangelical preachers, otoh, don't even have degrees. When they claim that it's "the word of god," it's really the word of some humans who wrote it down, others who (mis)translated it, and yet others who translated it further -- and then filtered through the mind and mouth of the guy in the pulpit.
 
Well it's obvious that it wasn't a church thing but a Christian thing. Christianity itself blended in aspects of pagan religions.

"The roots of Christianity are interlaced with ancient pagan traditions and elements, mainly because the Church gained power through conversion. In order to convert the people of Europe (and the world) from their pagan beliefs, the Church felt they had to turn them against their beliefs by fear or adopt the pagan beliefs into the Christian religion."

The virgin birth, death, and resurrection of Christ were also borrowed from earlier religions.
 
That will not stop them from trying though. I wonder how many of them stop to think that when they go to church/Sunday school, that what they are being taught is that particular minister's interpretation or idea of what a particular passage really means. It would be one thing to attend a lecture by one of the Biblical scholars you referred to, wherein he/she discusses particular verses in both the context of that entire passage but also in the context of the time and the world in which they were written. His interpretation would at least be backed by years of study and knowledge of the original language(s). Many of the evangelical preachers, otoh, don't even have degrees. When they claim that it's "the word of god," it's really the word of some humans who wrote it down, others who (mis)translated it, and yet others who translated it further -- and then filtered through the mind and mouth of the guy in the pulpit.
good insights

Your garden variety fundamentalist seems to think it is child's play to read and interpret the bible, and to cherry pick quotes to support preconceived ideas.

I am pretty sure there are fundamentalists who think the scripture was written in English. They have never even considered that they have never actually read the real New Testament, nor that it is extremely difficult for even trained theologians who can read Greek and Latin to read and interpret archaic texts which were written for the culture and mindset of people who lived thousands of years ago. Can you imagine how challenging it actually would be for an English speaking Deplorable of below average intelligence?
 
Inspections were working, as were sanctions.

War wasn't a last resort.

Saddam had kicked the inspectors out and limited where they could look. :palm:

Despots don't care about agreements, honesty, meeting their obligations or sanctions.

War WAS the last resort. We tried for more than thirteen years to get him to comply.
:rolleyes:
 
And I guarantee the same claims will be echoed in several of the Evangelical churches

Big mistake... evangelicals are cult not a real religion...religions do promote and accept the biggest crook in history
trumputin...and keep voting for him after they know he's the anti-Christ....
 
Saddam had kicked the inspectors out and limited where they could look. :palm:

Despots don't care about agreements, honesty, meeting their obligations or sanctions.

War WAS the last resort. We tried for more than thirteen years to get him to comply.
:rolleyes:

Wrong.

As of March, 2003, inspectors had unfettered access to all suspected sites.

As of the last NIE before invasion, Saddam wasn't even a threat to his immediate neighbors.

War was completely unnecessary. It was not a last resort. It's rare that a group is as vindicated by history as those who were against the war from the start.

We were right. You were wrong.
 
Wrong.

As of March, 2003, inspectors had unfettered access to all suspected sites.

WRONG: they received LIMITED access after Bush threatened them with war. and continued to defy the UN. After a year of that bullshit we finally went in with a BI-PARTISAN vote and the agreement of 46 other nations.

As of the last NIE before invasion, Saddam wasn't even a threat to his immediate neighbors.

Right; because YOU say so. But leaders in the Party of the Jackass, Republican Party and 46 other nations didn't think he wasn't a threat.

:wink:

War was completely unnecessary. It was not a last resort.

Again; because YOU say so. Idiots always think that HINDSIGHT makes for fabulous arguments. :palm:

It's rare that a group is as vindicated by history as those who were against the war from the start.

We were right. You were wrong.

There was no vindication; it was all hindsight second guessing malarkey. I remember the mood among MOST Americans after 9-11. Enough was enough. Unfortunately, leftists lack any common sense or intelligence and so they continue to make the same stupid mistakes and dumb arguments over and over again.

But I get it; you would prefer tyrants, dictators and terrorists to Democratic institutions; you're a dimwit.
:palm:
 
video=youtube_share;8LZ2gMnHJ6U]https://youtu.be/8LZ2gMnHJ6U?t=335[/video]
Video shows Trump helping the bible

raw
 
I'll give you credit. It's kind of amazing to still see anyone on the right argue that Iraq was the right decision anymore.

That ship has sailed for most who have even a basic level of intelligence & historical understanding.
 
"President Trump on Thursday claimed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, a practicing Catholic, is "against God" as he levied a stream of attacks on his likely opponent in the November election."

"Biden has spoken of his faith a number of times, crediting it with helping him through personal tragedies, such as the deaths of his wife and children, most recently his son Beau Biden. His campaign website outlines a plan for "Safeguarding America's faith-based communities," which includes promises to crack down on hate crimes and increase grants for religious communities"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510900-trump-claims-biden-is-against-god

Trump has been to church less than fourteen times in four years, in which only eight were for church services (https://www.nationalmemo.com/how-often-does-trump-actually-attend-church-not), and as we know, he doesn't even know which way to hold the Bible upright, and now he is commenting on another's religious behavior?

Right seems to be getting more desperate by the day

Did you miss the video where Biden says he wants to teach Islam in schools?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/20/joe-biden-islamic-faith-studies-should-be-taught-m/

You guys are so dishonest because there's no way you are this stupid
 
I'll give you credit. It's kind of amazing to still see anyone on the right argue that Iraq was the right decision anymore.

That ship has sailed for most who have even a basic level of intelligence & historical understanding.

Meanwhile your leaders support BLM and Antifa rioting and looting and even murdering. They never say anything about except its a myth. Plus your leaders let criminals out of jail because of a cold virus
 
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