TRUMP HAS AN ACE UP HIS SLEEVE - THE "JEFFERSON CARD"

Celticguy said:
Just like Jefferson...
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If Pence has plenary power why hasn't he just called the election for trump and stopped all the time-wasting?

Pence himself asked a federal judge to reject Gohmert's "attempts to force Pence to ignore electoral votes of several key states when Congress meets to certify the 2020 presidential election next week."
 
Why do I have a feeling that when 1/6 passes without any changes, the Trump loyalists will just start talking about a new date on the calendar?

They're running out of days, but they've moved the goalposts a few times so far. I doubt it will be truly over until Biden actually gets inaugurated.
 
Cypress said:
Scrutiny was my word choice for inceased attention to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (PLC) by scholars and in our college level European history classes. PLC was the largest nation state in medieval Europe, and was innovative in proto-democratic and social tolerance traditions.

It is ridiculous that American versions of European history virtually ignore PLC, Byzantine Empire, et al.

Most of what we call "European" history classes, are really just the history of Northwestern Europe: Britain, with s little bit of France, Germania, Italy, and Dutch Republic thrown in for spice.
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Right, from 1410 to 1610 Poland was the top power in Europe.

Top in military might from the Battle of Grunwald in 1410 which lead to thr Prussian Homage to the Battle of Klushino in 1610 which lead to Russian homage.

Also Poland was
Top in Scientists like Copernicus founder of modern Heliocentrism considered the start of the Scientific Revolution.
He also started modern economics Quanity Theory of Money & Greshamd law.

Although Gresham an Anglo stole credit.

Also Michal Sedziwoj a Pole discovered Oxygen & Anglos took credit many hundreds of years later

Copernicus mentor Albert Brrudzewski was also a great astronomer he discovered thd proper rotation of the Moon.

Also Jozef Strus pulse methods.

Kazimierz Siemienowicz multistage delta wing rockets.

Jan Helevius map of the moon

Others like Jan Brozek, Jan Muscenius, Adam of Lowicz, Maria Cunitz, Marcin Krol, Jan Mikolaj Smogulecki, Jan Dlugosz, Michael Falkener, Alexis Sylvia's Polonud, Marcin if Udzedow, Sabestusn Petrycy etc.

Similar with philosophy with Goslicki for freedom. Freedom of religion & equality

Modrzewski checks & balances & citizen rights.


Just war with Stanislaw of Skarbimier

The Freedom of religion Wsrsaw Confederation. Checks & balances Liberum Veto.

Poet Jan Kochanowski.

Composers Waclaw of Szarnotuly, Mikolay Gomolka
 
Cypress said:
Scrutiny was my word choice for inceased attention to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (PLC) by scholars and in our college level European history classes. PLC was the largest nation state in medieval Europe, and was innovative in proto-democratic and social tolerance traditions.

It is ridiculous that American versions of European history virtually ignore PLC, Byzantine Empire, et al.

Most of what we call "European" history classes, are really just the history of Northwestern Europe: Britain, with a little bit of France, Germania, and Dutch Republic thrown in for spice.
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How are Polish pariots supposed to feel about the USA?

I learned about Russian Kings & Queens but not Polish king Jan III Sobieski.

How should I feel?

What about Germany, Cossacks & Russians how am I supposed to feel about the many millions of Poles dead from them?

What about dumb Polak jokes told by West Euro Americans how am I supposed to feel,?

What about the Blacks who jumped & robbed my Polish American uncle
Or
My own experience with dozens of Blacks starring me down or insulting me.

How am I supposed to feel?

What about Jews blaming Poles for the Holocuast & looking to get Poland to pay them compensations for Jewish lands lost in Poland but not pay Palestinians?

What about Jews like Salomon Morel & Jakub Berman?

You tell me how I should feel?
 
Cypress said:
As long as you appreciate the culture, without resorting to caricature and stereotype, that is fine. My grandmother was a university educated woman, and her brothers were flag officers in the imperial army. Hardly hillbilly Cossacks.

As for myself, I prefer some of the old Cossack folk songs.
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Do you think you are the only one with semi elite origins in Eastern Europe?

My great great grandfather was an officer in the Polish army.
His brother was a Priest.

I'm not sure if we were Szlachta but I wouldn't be surprised .

My officer great, great Grandfather sent his 3 daughters to the USA.
Because WW1 was starting & he didn't want his daughters to experience the horrors of war.

My great, grandmother 1 of the 3 married a Polish artist & house builder immigrant from Poland in Port chester, NY.

My Polish grandmother was a factory worker machinist & secretary met my Polish American grandfather from successful tobacco farmers from South Deerfield Massachusetts.

My Polish American father has his Masters degree in teaching & an Associates in Special education. An Associates in History, He also has a Bachelors degree in draftsman n mechanical drawing.

My Irish side is also is elite.

My granfather was from Ireland & became vice president of a successful Paper company.
My
Irish American mother has her Bachelors degree in teaching.
 
BartenderElite said:
Why do I have a feeling that when 1/6 passes without any changes, the Trump loyalists will just start talking about a new date on the calendar?

They're running out of days, but they've moved the goalposts a few times so far. I doubt it will be truly over until Biden actually gets inaugurated.
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They have time to make up something about the inauguration. If Biden is not sworn in, the constitution says Trump is king for life.
 
christiefan915 said:
If Pence has plenary power why hasn't he just called the election for trump and stopped all the time-wasting?

Pence himself asked a federal judge to reject Gohmert's "attempts to force Pence to ignore electoral votes of several key states when Congress meets to certify the 2020 presidential election next week."
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Gohmerts suit was pointless. He has the authority same as Jefferson. Subsequent law does not supercede the constitution.
Whether he does it or not remains to be seen.
Why wait ? Why not ?
Less time till inauguration mainly.
 
RomanDmowski said:
Do you think you are the only one with semi elite origins in Eastern Europe?

My great great grandfather was an officer in the Polish army.
His brother was a Priest.

I'm not sure if we were Szlachta but I wouldn't be surprised .

My officer great, great Grandfather sent his 3 daughters to the USA.
Because WW1 was starting & he didn't want his daughters to experience the horrors of war.

My great, grandmother 1 of the 3 married a Polish artist & house builder immigrant from Poland in Port chester, NY.

My Polish grandmother was a factory worker machinist & secretary met my Polish American grandfather from successful tobacco farmers from South Deerfield Massachusetts.

My Polish American father has his Masters degree in teaching & an Associates in Special education. An Associates in History, He also has a Bachelors degree in draftsman n mechanical drawing.

My Irish side is also is elite.

My granfather was from Ireland & became vice president of a successful Paper company.
My
Irish American mother has her Bachelors degree in teaching.
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The only reason I mentioned education level and professional accomplishment, is because you dismissed Cossacks as hillbillies.

I have never claimed anyone was elite, or better than anyone else. It would matter not the least to me if my ancestors were serfs. My parents, grandmother, and aunt came here as stateless immigrants with probably less than $100 between them. Their property in the home country was confiscated, and they lived for years in near abject poverty.

Solzhenitsyn always said that adversity and suffering contributed to wisdom and moral clarity.

And that is why I laugh at crybaby Deplorable snowflakes who are so distraught about the election loss of their Orange God, they are willing to subvert democracy and invalidate the state certified electoral college vote. President Joe Biden is not the end of the world.
 
Cypress said:
The only reason I mentioned education level and professional accomplishment, is because you dismissed Cossacks as hillbillies.

I have never claimed anyone was elite, or better than anyone else. It would matter not the least to me if my ancestors were serfs. My parents, grandmother, and aunt came here as stateless immigrants with probably less than $100 between them. Their property in the home country was confiscated, and they lived for years in near abject poverty.

Solzhenitsyn always said that adversity and suffering contributed to wisdom and moral clarity.

And that is why I laugh at crybaby Deplorable snowflakes who are so distraught about the election loss of their Orange God, they are willing to subvert democracy and invalidate the state certified electoral college vote. President Joe Biden is not the end of the world.
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Right, 100's of millions of people lost properties between major cities like Berlin ,& Vladivostok.

Why is it ONLY Jews & Germans think they are owed for this?

If anything Germans & Jews created the Bolsheviks.

The German claim or Prussian trust have been denied.

But, Jews have been successful in getting half of Eurasia to pay them off.
Not just Central & East Europe but also Islamic states.
But
Won't do the same with Palestinians.

Then, with their allegedly superior intelligence can't grasp why they are despised.
 
TRUMP HAS AN ACE UP HIS SLEEVE - THE "JEFFERSON CARD"
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