They are the productive states. Hands down.
Trump Hid In A Crate When He Left NATO Summit
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Poopeye, what's the problem??? No buddies to service.
Whatever you do, don't mention how the SALT deductions benefited Blue states and cities by offsetting the cost of their social welfare spending and shifted the burden onto the federal tax base.
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Sure. But your problem is the myth base reality you spin is at odds with reality and facts.
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Extensive fiscal data shows the opposite reality: "blue" states (Democratic-leaning) generally subsidize "red" states (Republican-leaning) by contributing vastly more in federal tax revenue than they receive back in federal spending. Meanwhile, red states tend to be highly reliant on federal funding to balance their state budgets. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The Tax and Spending Imbalance
- Net Contributors vs. Net Recipients: Studies tracking the "balance of payments" consistently show that wealthy, high-income blue states like New York, California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts generate a disproportionate amount of federal income tax revenue. They receive less than a dollar back in federal spending for every dollar they send to Washington. [1, 2]
- Red State Dependency: Conversely, many red states, particularly in the South and rural West (such as Mississippi, West Virginia, and Alabama), have lower median incomes and receive significantly more in federal funding—via Medicaid, food assistance, and infrastructure grants—than their residents pay in federal taxes. On average, red states derive roughly 35.75% of their total state budgets from federal funding, compared to about 30.80% for blue states. [1, 2, 3]
The Role of Military Spending
- Defense Dollars Spread Everywhere: While it is true that certain red states host massive military bases and defense contractors (such as Texas, Virginia, or Alabama), military spending is not exclusive to red states. [1, 2]
- Blue State Defense Hubs: Blue states like California, Connecticut, and Washington also secure tens of billions of dollars annually in defense procurement contracts and research funding. [1]
- Economic Drivers: Even where military spending boosts a red state's local economy, the funding for that spending is heavily bankrolled by the massive tax revenues generated in economic powerhouses like California and New York. [1, 2]
So you know all the details? Let us all in.
Keeping things simple:
"In the federal tax system, wealthier blue (Democratic-leaning) states generally pay significantly more in federal tax revenue than they receive in federal spending. Conversely, many red (Republican-leaning) states have lower average taxable incomes and receive more in federal expenditures than they contribute in taxes."
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That's the overall story not the details. Read the news reports; it may be a first for you.
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The small script numbers 1,2,3,4 are all links to the source article which have links to the source data.
For shame on you Lionfish! Don't you know every liberal on this board goes to every Trump cabinet and security meetings? Obviously they all hold positions in our higher goverment. CIA, NSA, War Dept etc. One of them is Secret Service. Ask them. They will tell you. They have access to information that would boogle the average Americans mind. And I have to admit if Trump would just listen to their expert advice all the world's problems would not exist. How foolish of him.....
That's the overall story not the details. Read the news reports; it may be a first for you.
Your BS has been exposed for what it is 3 times, fartin' Martin.
I'll make it 4.
Accurate characterization of what actually happened?
No, the characterization “Trump hid in a crate” is not accurate. It is a mocking, dismissive exaggeration from the justplainpolitics forum thread (and similar online jokes). The actual reported events involve a standard airport catering truck/container as part of a deliberate security deception, not a wooden crate or box.
What the reports actually describe
According to detailed accounts published around August 10–11, 2026 by The Washington Post (primary source for many outlets), The New York Times, and others citing U.S. officials and reviewed material:
- After the NATO summit in Ankara, Turkey (July 8, 2026), Trump publicly boarded the older (“legacy”) blue-and-white Air Force One Boeing 747 in full view of cameras and waved, consistent with his public statements that he would use it for the first leg home “for old time’s sake” while the newer Qatari-gifted plane went to RAF Mildenhall so troops could see it.
- Minutes later, on the far/opposite side of the aircraft (out of public view), Trump and a small group of aides exited into a hydraulic airport catering truck/container—the elevated vehicle normally used to load in-flight meals and supplies. The container was raised to the door, then lowered and driven a short distance across the tarmac to a waiting U.S. Air Force C-32A (a modified Boeing 757).
- The C-32A (flying under a nondescript call sign with tracking transponders off) carried Trump to RAF Mildenhall in Britain. The older Air Force One, carrying the White House press corps and some staff who believed the president was still aboard, served as a high-profile decoy. Reporters were told to close window shades.
- The switch was driven by intelligence of a credible Iranian assassination threat (or threat targeting the president/his plane) amid escalating U.S.-Iran hostilities at the time. Similar (if less elaborate) decoy tactics have been used historically (e.g., Clinton in 2000).
White House responses framed it as using “every tool at our disposal” against threats; Trump later remarked to reporters about being “number one” on Iran’s list and referenced dangerous flights. Critics (including some Democrats) called the ruse unusual or “surreal” and questioned using press/staff as unwitting decoys; supporters treated it as prudent security.
Forum framing vs. reality
The justplainpolitics thread title and posts (“hid in a crate,” “special crate,” “super crate,” jokes about fatness/fitting in a box, “frightened,” abandoning others, etc.) deliberately flatten a professional security transfer via a large, elevated catering vehicle into a cartoonish image of cowering inside a shipping crate. That is rhetorical mockery, not a precise description of the reported mechanics or the intelligence-driven context.
In short: the core event (secret plane swap using a catering truck as cover amid an Iranian threat, with Air Force One as decoy) is what major outlets reported based on officials and documents. Calling it “hiding in a crate” is inaccurate spin.
Trump's Cargo Plane Deception | Shared Grok Conversation
Accurate characterization of what actually happened? https://www.justplainpolitics.com/threads/trump
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I put your comment in quotes in google search and asked it to fact check and that is what google AI answered.
Those links take you to the Rockefeller Institute study and many MANY others, substantiating the points made. They are full of data within those links.
Because of federal infrastructure in blues states.
And what does that have to do with my question? You used Google, thank you for that answer. What question did you ask it?
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it addresses your comment and shows how wrong it is, with facts.
I told you. I put your comment above ("Wrong again. If there was not so much federal funding, military, yada, yada in blues states they would be broke.") in quotes and asked it to fact check it.
And it provided a laundry list of citations and hard data and facts that PROVE you are wrong.
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And after this has all been debunked, here comes the fake blackman, Jew and vet riding in to save the day with more disinformation. You just cannot make this shit up.
Because tax revenues are based on earned income and residents of blue states produce more and therefore earn more income than do residents of red states. It's odd a member of a political forum doesn't already know this.