United States will become the world's THIRD biggest economy behind China and Ind

Havana Moon said:
I really think you don't get it, China is building or planning high-speed railways all over S E Asia. One of those will go through Laos, Thailand down to Singapore and another through Vietnam, the Eastern Seaboard and Bangkok. The infrastructure plans are truly enormous, what's the US doing? The Chinese are currently building 20 new nuclear reactors, expanding their military massively and rapidly overtaking the US and Japan in electronics. Maybe if you came here you'd see all those Chinese, living in abject poverty, swarming around all the shopping malls in Bangkok and Pattaya buying Rolex and Cartier watches? Oh and I ought to add that they have built 20 thousand kilometres of high-speed rail in China, they'll probably build another 10 thousand before California finishes theirs!

Another recent phenomena is Indian tourists, they are everywhere in Pattaya now. There is a huge Indian middle class, bigger than the entire US population and they've got money to burn. As for Russians, they are bloody everywhere Desh would have a blue arsed fit!! Plenty of bots here, mostly attached to really fit looking Russian blonde bints!
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Well again, the fact that both have growing economies is not, in and of itself, an exestential threat to the US. In fact with the rising standard of living for large numbers in both countries will have a greater political stabilizing affect than having nearly 3 billion people in abject poverty and that is what you are cluelessly glossing over just how large that problem is still in both China and India. Yes...they both now have vast middle classes...and that's good for India, good for China and good for the world. That doesn't mitigate that between the two nations over a billion people are either in abject poverty or have a subsistence living. These are a far greater problem to China and India and still a huge drain on their resources and demands a vast amount of their resources and attention.

So again, China may be a regional bully and were well aware of that in the US but their rising economy there and in India is not at the cost of ours nor is it an existential threat to us.
 
East Asian littoral states WANT us there to protect them from China hegemony.

As it is China dredge islands are also being militarized -it's not just about the resources
 
bhaktajan said:
"Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city, it's just in the wrong hands!”
Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/n...e-of-city.html
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De Blasio is a moron. Your linky no worky.

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Jack said:
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China has a system of State Capitalism, so what would be the difference in the economic order?

iolo: "No, I don't enjoy individual liberty ..."
Jack: Oh. Sorry to hear that. I prefer the concept of a Free Expression environment. I would hate for a Chinese style 'Censorship' to be imposed on the Nation and that be the norm.
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I know. No Trumpf, mainly.

I don't like the American monopoly capitalist style much either, and I used to understand Chinese rather better than I now understand trumping! :)
 
At the time of the Industrial Revolution the Americans were desperately stealing ideas from the UK, the Strutts at Belper for example. Somehow they have forgotten! What a wonderfully honest system is capitalism! :)
 
iolo said:
At the time of the Industrial Revolution the Americans were desperately stealing ideas from the UK, the Strutts at Belper for example. Somehow they have forgotten! What a wonderfully honest system is capitalism! :)
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True but fortunately the Americans weren't burdened with a degenerate aristocracy and soon the students far excelled the teachers. :)
 
iolo said:
I know. No Trumpf, mainly.

I don't like the American monopoly capitalist style much either, and I used to understand Chinese rather better than I now understand trumping! :)
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The Americans are spreading the Ideas, Customs, and Culture of their Parents ... Great Britain. So, if I were you, I wouldn't be complaining too much.
The Chinese feel the West has 'humiliated' them for the last 100 years. Can you say "Opium War"?
(Thanks iolo .... here's another fine mess you've gotten us into) :(
 
Jack said:
The Americans are spreading the Ideas, Customs, and Culture of their Parents ... Great Britain. So, if I were you, I wouldn't be complaining too much.
The Chinese feel the West has 'humiliated' them for the last 100 years. Can you say "Opium War"?
(Thanks iolo .... here's another fine mess you've gotten us into) :(
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Out standing perspective on China - they really felt slighted being the "weak man of Asia"
before the Communist revolution. Opium war is the classic example

Keep up the good work, jack! .I'm impressed with your knowledge of the Kurds and the Chinese!
 
Sick man of Asia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sick_man_of_Asia
The phrase "sick man of Asia" or "sick man of East Asia" (Chinese Simplified: 东亚病夫, dong ya bing fu) originally referred to China in the late 19th and early 20th centuries when it was riven by internal divisions and taken advantage of by the great powers. China was forced to sign a series of unequal treaties, culminating in the Japanese invasion of China during World War II. The phrase may be considered derogatory, as it mocks Chinese government and the Chinese people for being weak. The phrase was intended as a parallel to "sick man of Europe", referring to the weakening Ottoman Empire during the same period.[1] Like the "sick man of Europe" term, it has also been used to refer to numerous other Asian countries.
 
anatta said:
Out standing perspective on China - they really felt slighted being the "weak man of Asia"
before the Communist revolution. Opium war is the classic example

Keep up the good work, jack! .I'm impressed with your knowledge of the Kurds and the Chinese!
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:) :thumbsup:


(Keep telling me how impressed you are, and I'll keep giving you a 'Thanks' and a Big Thumb's Up) :thumbsupgirl:
 
Jack said:
:) :thumbsup:


(Keep telling me how impressed you are, and I'll keep giving you a 'Thanks' and a Big Thumb's Up)
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lol.."cheap thrills" huh?
seriously you know more about the Chinese economy, and mindset than 90% of all Americans.

You know more about the Kurds then I do.

China had a real inferiority complex after eons of a complex empire.
It still plays on their collective minds (making them x-tra arrogant. lol)
 
noise said:
lol.."cheap thrills" huh?
seriously you know more about the Chinese economy, and mindset than 90% of all Americans.

You know more about the Kurds then I do.

China had a real inferiority complex after eons of a complex empire.
It still plays on their collective minds (making them x-tra arrogant. lol)
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haha ...
It's nice coming to a Politics Forum where we can all exchange views. We all have opinions. Mine's as valid as the next person's.
I'm glad we both agree that China has future ambitions and that at one time it WAS an Empire.
Nice talking to you, Noise.
 
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