Wanna prolong COVID? Vote Trump

BartenderElite said:
The man does NOT understand the concept of testing.

Why don't we have a national testing strategy? Oh, yeah - because Trump thinks that the more we test, the worse things look.

He keeps saying how we've "tested over 50 million people," like that's supposed to be impressive. We have a much bigger country than that, and people should be tested regularly. A true testing strategy would have us testing over 20 million citizens a day. We've tested 52 million since this began.

Honestly - a Democrat would have implemented a national testing strategy from day 1, and we'd be testing millions every day, at minimum. Sometimes, more government isn't a bad thing.
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The best case would be a simple free at-home test distributed by the government. If we could produce that we would get a far better grip on the spread.
 
Hello Darth Omar,

Darth Omar said:
We have basically lost the media.
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Nothing has been lost. The bubble has it's own media. It's nothing the main stream media has done. The main stream media was rejected by the bubble. It's still right there any time people from the bubble want to check back in with it. The main stream media serves the rest of the world just fine.
 
Hello T. A. Gardner,

T. A. Gardner said:
On the other hand, if you vote Biden and the Democrats...

They do NOT understand the concept of fiscal responsibility.

They don't have a rational national strategy on anything. Oh, yeah-- The Democrats think the more they spend the better things will get.

They keep saying how they've "spent trillions to help people" like that's supposed to be impressive. We have a much smaller economy than that and people should be self-reliant. A true spending strategy would have us spending what we can afford and not leaving citizens in deep fiscal debt. Right now, that's $80,373 per person, man, woman, and child in the US.

Honestly-- the Democrats would have spent like there's no tomorrow to make people feel better now regardless of how much they'll hurt later. Most times, big government is a bad thing.
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Right. All the spending was Democrats' fault. First of all, it is a good thing that the recent spending was done, otherwise the economy would have cratered, and secondly, it was not a Democratic Senate or President who signed off on it. It was approved because at that point it had to be done. Did we have to get to that point? Ask the Republican President.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello T. A. Gardner,



Right. All the spending was Democrats' fault. First of all, it is a good thing that the recent spending was done, otherwise the economy would have cratered, and secondly, it was not a Democratic Senate or President who signed off on it. It was approved because at that point it had to be done. Did we have to get to that point? Ask the Republican President.
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Not all of it, just most of it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
On the other hand, if you vote Biden and the Democrats...

They do NOT understand the concept of fiscal responsibility.

They don't have a rational national strategy on anything. Oh, yeah-- The Democrats think the more they spend the better things will get.

They keep saying how they've "spent trillions to help people" like that's supposed to be impressive. We have a much smaller economy than that and people should be self-reliant. A true spending strategy would have us spending what we can afford and not leaving citizens in deep fiscal debt. Right now, that's $80,373 per person, man, woman, and child in the US.

Honestly-- the Democrats would have spent like there's no tomorrow to make people feel better now regardless of how much they'll hurt later. Most times, big government is a bad thing.
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You, like the majority of people, don't grasp how modern money works. Do you even understand fractional reserve banking? Basically, debt = money. So the truth is that the "national debt" is little more than a political boogeyman.
 
BartenderElite said:
The man does NOT understand the concept of testing.

Why don't we have a national testing strategy? Oh, yeah - because Trump thinks that the more we test, the worse things look.

He keeps saying how we've "tested over 50 million people," like that's supposed to be impressive. We have a much bigger country than that, and people should be tested regularly. A true testing strategy would have us testing over 20 million citizens a day. We've tested 52 million since this began.

Honestly - a Democrat would have implemented a national testing strategy from day 1, and we'd be testing millions every day, at minimum. Sometimes, more government isn't a bad thing.
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You truly are so full of shit, stick to making cocktails.
 
BartenderElite said:
That's horrible leadership.

We can send a man to the moon when we want to. We can send someone to MARS.

We can't coordinate a national all-in strategy on testing?

I thought Trump was Mr. "make things happen." He is the absentee President on this.
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When was anybody sent to Mars, shit for brains? Sending people to Mars is hellishly difficult especially if you want them to come back again. That you can spout bullshit like that tells me you just don't have a clue!

https://badphilosopher.com/problems-sending-people-to-mars/
 
BartenderElite said:
What is America's national testing & tracing strategy?

Please be detailed & specific.
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To date there have been over 54 million tests and both Apple and Google have shared resources on a contact tracing app.

A number of U.S. states, including North Dakota and Alabama, and 22 countries have received access to the technology that was designed to help governments better track and contain the spread of the virus, the companies said.

In a statement, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum described the smartphone technology as being “critical to getting communities and economies back up and running.”

Been exposed to the coronavirus?: Apple and Google will warn you. Here's how.

Apple, Google team up on contact tracing: Public health apps using the tech could warn you of coronavirus exposure
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...act-tracing-mobile-app-technology/5229556002/
 
BartenderElite said:
Knowing what you know about testing, how many people do you think we should be testing per week?

Do you think 54 million is a lot in a nation of 320 million+, over more than 5 months?
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It works out at around 164 thousand per million which is more than most countries including South Korea, Australia, Switzerland, France, Canada, New Zealand, Denmark and Sweden. So what does that tell you?
 
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Grajonca said:
It works out at around 164 per million which is more than most countries including South Korea, Australia, Switzerland, France, Canada, New Zealand, Denmark and Sweden. So what does that tell you?
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Twist in the wind all you want ASG f***** it up
 
Grajonca said:
It works out at around 164 per million which is more than most countries including South Korea, Australia, Switzerland, France, Canada, New Zealand, Denmark and Sweden. So what does that tell you?
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Recall that the former criticism was not enough testing.

Now that we are testing out the ying-yang, the criticism shifted to no testing strategy lol.

Like I said, depending on the outcome, the election will change things on the COVID issue.
 
BartenderElite said:
What is America's national testing & tracing strategy?

Please be detailed & specific.
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Whatever it would look like whose fault is it we don’t have one?

Trump’s lol? Maybe Trump should craft our national testing strategy after Obama’s Swine flu testing strategy:

In late July, the CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases. The rationale given for the CDC guidance to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there's an epidemic?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...omplicating-bidens-attacks-on-white-house.amp
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That isn’t Fox News—it’s CBS in 2009.

Apparently, stopping is a testing strategy of sorts. At least it was under Obama. There’s certainly an argument to be made that we are over-testing.

Recall that the Swine Flu inordinately affected young people and not nursing home residents and/or people who are in their 80’s that have a one in seven chance of dying from something in a given year.

Another strategy I would suggest is they work on their categorization of both positive tests and deaths. Deaths in particular. Did died *with* Swine flu exist as a category under Obama? I don’t recall it. I get the idea the death count would have been much higher. Perhaps much, much, higher had they done that.

So let’s drop the ‘died with’ category altogether and limit it to individuals who died *strictly from* COVID. This would reduce some of the panic and provide a more—how shall we say it—more scientific basis, for public policy.
 
BartenderElite said:
Knowing what you know about testing, how many people do you think we should be testing per week?

Do you think 54 million is a lot in a nation of 320 million+, over more than 5 months?
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US testing massively dwarfs any other countries abilities/results
 
anatta said:
US testing massively dwarfs any other countries abilities/results
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Get read for some OMG‘s!!! lol

One suggestion is to stop testing so much. The WHO insists that the big jump in positive tests has nothing to do with the rate of testing. Of course, since it’s the WHO, you have to take that with a grain of salt.

Unless they have symptoms, I would stop testing healthy young people altogether. Even when they do get it they’re minimally contagious because they have a low viral load.

We’re in the process of watching all sports grind to a halt because Uber healthy young individuals are getting picked up in random/pointless tests. Watch and wait to see if this doesn’t happen: if/when schools open, teachers are going to demand to be tested [my former healthcare buddies don’t even get that] and guess what will happen—when that happens.

Bingo! They will pick up some positive tests. Take it to the bank. Close the school down and around we go. Stuck in a never ending loop.

It’s crazy.
 
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