What made America great before there was a need to MAGA

Penderyn said:
Not every country, after all, had other people's land to steal or millions of kidnapped people for forced labour. 'Freedom' was a bit limited, if you ask me.
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facile. what matters is what we do, and we have done a lot for the world when we neded not to have saved you from Hitler etc.

But your's is a brooding loathing of western ideals for some reason -not our problem
 
Arminius said:
Me: We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Both are compatible with capitalism
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says some fucking idiot on the internets


we are a democracy


you suck putins ass to claim this


go get the dictionary that says the USA is not a democracy
 
evince said:
when did the terms PURE DEMOCRACY and DIRECT DEMOCRACY emerge ?


when the founders of the USA created a hybrid government unlike any other ever seen to show the world what one man one vote looked like



the word democracy was changed forever


the only other democracies BEFORE THEM only allowed some to vote and everything was decided by those few who could vote



The founders of the USA changed the world FOREVER

and the word Democracy forever



The USA was that first Democracy


and still is


we are a democratic republic with a guiding constitution


its very telling that the republicans NOW HATE the word democracy


The cheating they do in elections is DESIGNED to not let every one vote
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1) Greece was a democracy long before the U.S. was even a concept. Studying their blunders is how our Founders knew to avoid democracy.

2) The ACORN party that opposes voter ID laws and weaponizes government to rig elections against their opponents while protecting armed voter intimidation at the polls, openly facilitating illegal immigrant voting and that was literally caught rigging an election against Bernie Sanders...while staging one coup attempt after another to overthrow the 2016 election...accuses ANYONE ELSE of cheating?

:rofl2:
 
China claims the Middle Kingdom,it's not a unique idea -the proof is what you do with it, and we did a lot of good before the Neocons destroyed the usage for their"spreading democracy at the barrel of a gun "stupidity
 
Democracy | Definition of Democracy by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

democracy: [noun] a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held …




Merriam fucking Websters you stupid brain putty asshole


the USA is a Democracy

and one has to wonder why REPUBLICANS keep screaming the lie that we are not
 
Arminius said:
Me: We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Both are compatible with capitalism

You: They aren't democracies.

Me: WHAT aren't democracies? You're trailing off into incoherent nonsense again.



No one said the rich did that. Learn how to read. What was said was that CAPITALISM elevates the poor out of poverty. And if you take a first-year economics course, you learn that free market competition lowers prices, improves choice and access, and provides jobs. It's not rocket science to anyone but the economically illiterate low-IQ left.



Understanding basic economic realities is...immature? Um, sure. Sound logic there, Socrates. :laugh:
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Capitalism, as you know, exists by stealing a high proportion of people's wages, and taxing them to pay to be brainwashed. Since you pretend not to know, capitalist states can't be democracies, because the electorate is not allowed to know the truth. Capitalism, like living in caves, is a necessary stage in evolution, but it's time to move on - or die = now. It is interesting to see how none of you can ever discuss anything without screaming silly insults, don't you think?
 
Arminius said:
1) Greece was a democracy long before the U.S. was even a concept. Studying their blunders is how our Founders knew to avoid democracy.

2) The ACORN party that opposes voter ID laws and weaponizes government to rig elections against their opponents while protecting armed voter intimidation at the polls, openly facilitating illegal immigrant voting and that was literally caught rigging an election against Bernie Sanders...while staging one coup attempt after another to overthrow the 2016 election...accuses ANYONE ELSE of cheating?

:rofl2:
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Document your lie filled claim with something respectable asshole


some internets poster making feces brained claims based on nothing doesn't get it


FACTS GET IT DONE


and facts seem to hate you as much as you hate them
 
dukkha said:
facile. what matters is what we do, and we have done a lot for the world when we neded not to have saved you from Hitler etc.

But your's is a brooding loathing of western ideals for some reason -not our problem
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Stalin did that. I'm afraid, while you were engaged elsewhere. I REPRESENT western ideals, kid.
 
Penderyn said:
Capitalism, as you know, exists by stealing a high proportion of people's wages, and taxing them to pay to be brainwashed. Since you pretend not to know, capitalist states can't be democracies, because the electorate is not allowed to know the truth. Capitalism, like living in caves, is a necessary stage in evolution, but it's time to move on - or die = now. It is interesting to see how none of you can ever discuss anything without screaming silly insults, don't you think?
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CAPITALISM WORKES GREAT COMBINED WITH DEMOCRACY


the republicans have just worked for decades to try and destroy democracy


the example is right here with these assholes trying to claim the USA is NOT a Democracy
 
evince said:
says some fucking idiot on the internets
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Me: States common knowledge fact

Democrat ignoramus: Says you

Me: Um, okay...me and anyone who's made it past high school, sure. :laugh:

evince said:
we are a democracy
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"...and to the republic, for which it stands..."

Funny how our Pledge contradicts you. What a fucking idiot. :laugh:

evince said:
you suck putins ass to claim this
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And just in case anyone didn't realize from your asinine butchery of basic facts that you're a moron...you remind us that you are also a conspiracy theorist. :rofl2:

Devastating comeback, Socrates. I stand corrected. :palm:
 
evince said:
Democracy | Definition of Democracy by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

democracy: [noun] a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held …




Merriam fucking Websters you stupid brain putty asshole


the USA is a Democracy

and one has to wonder why REPUBLICANS keep screaming the lie that we are not
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Merriam fucking Websters
 
evince said:
Document your lie filled claim with something respectable asshole


some internets poster making feces brained claims based on nothing doesn't get it


FACTS GET IT DONE


and facts seem to hate you as much as you hate them
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You're a conspiracy theorist. Your entire worldview is ANTITHETICAL to facts. :laugh:
 
Arminius said:
Me: States common knowledge fact

Democrat ignoramus: Says you

Me: Um, okay...me and anyone who's made it past high school, sure. :laugh:



"...and to the republic, for which it stands..."

Funny how our Pledge contradicts you. What a fucking idiot. :laugh:



And just in case anyone didn't realize from your asinine butchery of basic facts that you're a moron...you remind us that you are also a conspiracy theorist. :rofl2:

Devastating comeback, Socrates. I stand corrected. :palm:
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Merriam fucking Websters
 
go get any respected reference that claims the USA is not a democracy


YOU CANT AND WONT


there is none you lying heap of putin turds
 
THE PLEDGE OF FUCKING ALLEGIANCE:

"...and to the republic [not democracy], for which it stands..."


(there, I translated it into unhinged snowflake tantrum-speak for you)

:laugh:
 
The first democracies were in ancient Greece more than 2,000 years ago. Those did not last long, however. After that kings and other rulers had all the power in their countries. In about the 1200s, however, some rulers began to allow certain citizens to be part of the government.
By the 1600s and 1700s some people began to think that all people had certain rights. These included the right to participate in their government.
 
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