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Diogenes

Diogenes

Nemo me impune lacessit
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A lot of people haven't heard of "Christian Nationalism" because there's little reason to know about something so marginal.

But the overwhelming majority of extreme liberals have heard of it. because their favored media are constantly telling them what an overwhelming threat it is.


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When the Democrat-dominated media is used as a source by JPP leftists, don't dismiss the source - that's fallacious.

Address the points under discussion.

Being skeptical of the media is understandable.

Remember, this is the same “mainstream” media that lied about Sleepy Joe Biden being “sharp as a tack” a week before the debate...
 
Diogenes said:
A lot of people haven't heard of "Christian Nationalism" because there's little reason to know about something so marginal.

But the overwhelming majority of extreme liberals have heard of it. because their favored media are constantly telling them what an overwhelming threat it is.
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Christian Nationalism is real and it's as much of a mental disease as wokeness is.

All of these extremist, selfish, fringe elements of society on both sides are doing more harm than good.
 
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Grok: Mainstream and left-leaning media largely framed Daniel Penny negatively as a killer/vigilante (often emphasizing race and excessive force), while coverage of Karmelo Anthony prominently featured and amplified his self-defense claim as a teen, with racial angles from supporters—though his conviction limited the "hero" narrative.

Jordan Neely (black, homeless, history of mental illness and violence) entered a subway car, shouted threats (e.g., "I'm ready to die," "I'll hurt you"), scaring passengers. Penny (White, Marine veteran) and others restrained him with a chokehold lasting several minutes until Neely went limp and died (ruled homicide by neck compression). Penny was charged with manslaughter and negligent homicide; acquitted on the latter after a deadlock on the former. Witnesses described Neely as a clear threat.

Progressive outlets called Penny a "subway strangler," "killer," "murderer," or "vigilante." Coverage highlighted race (white killer vs. black victim), homelessness, and "excessive force" (holding too long). Outlets like The Guardian discussed "white vigilante crime" patterns and "lynching" rhetoric; some compared it to cases like Zimmerman/Rittenhouse.

Karmelo Anthony (black) stabbed Austin Metcalf (white) in the chest during an altercation at a track meet. Anthony sat uninvited under Metcalf's team tent; words were exchanged, Metcalf (and others) told him to leave. Anthony warned Metcalf "touch me and see what happen". Metcalf pushed him. Anthony pulled a knife from his bag, stabbed, and fled after disposing of the murder weapon. He admitted it when apprehended, claiming self-defense. The jury rejected this (no deadly threat justified lethal force;, convicting him of murder and sentencing to 35 years.

Mainstream and left-leaning media heavily pushed a "self-defense" angle (terrified teen vs. white "aggressor/bully/mob"), with racial undertones. Many outlets amplified the racial flashpoint, protests, and "legal lynching" rhetoric from supporters/family. Mainstream coverage (ABC, CBS, Fox, AP) reported the self-defense claim as factual, downplaying the prosecutors' view that it was provocation/escalation by a black teen with a knife.
 
Diogenes said:
Grok: Mainstream and left-leaning media largely framed Daniel Penny negatively as a killer/vigilante (often emphasizing race and excessive force), while coverage of Karmelo Anthony prominently featured and amplified his self-defense claim as a teen, with racial angles from supporters—though his conviction limited the "hero" narrative.

Jordan Neely (black, homeless, history of mental illness and violence) entered a subway car, shouted threats (e.g., "I'm ready to die," "I'll hurt you"), scaring passengers. Penny (White, Marine veteran) and others restrained him with a chokehold lasting several minutes until Neely went limp and died (ruled homicide by neck compression). Penny was charged with manslaughter and negligent homicide; acquitted on the latter after a deadlock on the former. Witnesses described Neely as a clear threat.

Progressive outlets called Penny a "subway strangler," "killer," "murderer," or "vigilante." Coverage highlighted race (white killer vs. black victim), homelessness, and "excessive force" (holding too long). Outlets like The Guardian discussed "white vigilante crime" patterns and "lynching" rhetoric; some compared it to cases like Zimmerman/Rittenhouse.

Karmelo Anthony (black) stabbed Austin Metcalf (white) in the chest during an altercation at a track meet. Anthony sat uninvited under Metcalf's team tent; words were exchanged, Metcalf (and others) told him to leave. Anthony warned Metcalf "touch me and see what happen". Metcalf pushed him. Anthony pulled a knife from his bag, stabbed, and fled after disposing of the murder weapon. He admitted it when apprehended, claiming self-defense. The jury rejected this (no deadly threat justified lethal force;, convicting him of murder and sentencing to 35 years.

Mainstream and left-leaning media heavily pushed a "self-defense" angle (terrified teen vs. white "aggressor/bully/mob"), with racial undertones. Many outlets amplified the racial flashpoint, protests, and "legal lynching" rhetoric from supporters/family. Mainstream coverage (ABC, CBS, Fox, AP) reported the self-defense claim as factual, downplaying the prosecutors' view that it was provocation/escalation by a black teen with a knife.
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The media did not "frame" either of those events as your lie-meme claims it did.

Granted, it didn't frame those incidents the way the right wanted to see them framed, so now you MAGAs are shitting yourselves about lib'rul media bias.

SSDD.
 
Here are direct hyperlinks to mainstream media sources that explicitly demonstrate the framing @Nomad denies.

These refute his claim that media did not frame Daniel Penny as a killer/strangler/white vigilante (often with racial or excessive-force angles) and Karmelo Anthony’s case around a self-defense narrative for a teen (frequently with racial undertones amplified by supporters and coverage).

Additional corroboration appears in CBS News, AP, and court coverage repeatedly referencing the “subway strangler” and “killer” rhetoric.
  • CNN (June 9, 2026): https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/09/us/karmelo-anthony-texas-verdict-murder(Frames as “Murder or self-defense?”; details Anthony’s claim and jury rejection.)
  • ABC7 News (recent trial coverage): https://abc7news.com/story/karmelo-...d-murder-school-track-meet-stabbing/19264598/(Emphasizes “A jury rejected Karmelo Anthony’s claims of self-defense”; describes him as the teen in the confrontation.)
  • Forbes (June 2026): https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryro...role-in-karmelo-anthonys-stabbing-conviction/(Highlights the case as a “racial flashpoint”; notes defense’s self-defense argument and reactions tying it to race.)
  • CBS News / local affiliates and AP coverage (e.g., trial recaps): Multiple pieces (search “Karmelo Anthony self-defense” yields dozens) lead with or prominently feature the self-defense claim, Anthony as the teen asserting fear after being shoved/pushed, and debates over whether it was justified. Examples include reports noting his immediate post-stabbing statement to police claiming self-defense.
  • Additional examples: Houston Public Media, NBC DFW, and Wikipedia summaries of the case note the central role of the self-defense assertion and racial undertones in public/media attention.
These sources (from major outlets like NYT, Guardian, CNN, ABC, CBS, AP, Forbes, and others) show sustained use of the exact language and angles previously mentioned — Penny as the killer/strangler in activist and some reporting contexts, and Anthony’s case as a self-defense story for a teen amid racial framing from supporters and debate. @Nomad’s blanket denial does not hold against this record of actual media output.
 
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