Woodward Does It Again

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ThatOwlWoman

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So who's going to buy/read this book?
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(CNN)WARNING: This story contains graphic language.
President Donald Trump's closest aides have taken extraordinary measures in the White House to try to stop what they saw as his most dangerous impulses, going so far as to swipe and hide papers from his desk so he wouldn't sign them, according to a new book from legendary journalist Bob Woodward.
Woodward's 448-page book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," provides an unprecedented inside-the-room look through the eyes of the President's inner circle. From the Oval Office to the Situation Room to the White House residence, Woodward uses confidential background interviews to illustrate how some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.
Many of the feuds and daily clashes have been well documented, but the picture painted by Trump's confidants, senior staff and Cabinet officials reveal that many of them see an even more alarming situation — worse than previously known or understood. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying.

Chief of staff John Kelly describes Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged," Woodward reports. Defense Secretary James Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader." And Trump's former personal lawyer John Dowd describes the President as "a fucking liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller.

( https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-book-donald-trump-fear/index.html )
 
Not I. I am sure you democrats will eat it up. That guy I used to know Roger Wilkens (now deceased) was on the WaPo staff during Watergate. He didn't have much good to say about Woodward. He had much more respect for Carl Bernstein as a journalist. Said Woodward was overly dramatic and a lot of the stuff like the flower pot in the window thing was total BS manufactured up by Woodward as Woodward would claim he was going to meet Deep Throat with these type stories when he knew for certain Woodward had never even left the building before "returning from his meeting".
 
Woodward is solid. Bernstein has lost his shit. The book is an old look - if well researched by Woodward is his typical manner.
Looking behind the scenes is always interesting
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
So who's going to buy/read this book?
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(CNN)WARNING: This story contains graphic language.
President Donald Trump's closest aides have taken extraordinary measures in the White House to try to stop what they saw as his most dangerous impulses, going so far as to swipe and hide papers from his desk so he wouldn't sign them, according to a new book from legendary journalist Bob Woodward.
Woodward's 448-page book, "Fear: Trump in the White House," provides an unprecedented inside-the-room look through the eyes of the President's inner circle. From the Oval Office to the Situation Room to the White House residence, Woodward uses confidential background interviews to illustrate how some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.
Many of the feuds and daily clashes have been well documented, but the picture painted by Trump's confidants, senior staff and Cabinet officials reveal that many of them see an even more alarming situation — worse than previously known or understood. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying.

Chief of staff John Kelly describes Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged," Woodward reports. Defense Secretary James Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader." And Trump's former personal lawyer John Dowd describes the President as "a fucking liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller.

( https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-book-donald-trump-fear/index.html )
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I will probably buy it for my hubby. I am into fiction, lately, I go through phases, I’ll read non fiction till I’m burnt out, then I find lighter reading. Historical fiction is my genre right now.
 
Phantasmal said:
I will probably buy it for my hubby. I am into fiction, lately, I go through phases, I’ll read non fiction till I’m burnt out, then I find lighter reading. Historical fiction is my genre right now.
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I prefer fiction as well. That being said, I may very well read this one. Just the few revelations in the CNN article are terrifying.

"The book opens with a dramatic scene. Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn saw a draft letter he considered dangerous to national security on the Oval Office desk.

"The letter would have withdrawn the US from a critical trade agreement with South Korea. Trump's aides feared the fallout could jeopardize a top-secret national security program: the ability to detect a North Korean missile launch within just seven seconds.
Woodward reports Cohn was "appalled" that Trump might sign the letter. "I stole it off his desk," Cohn told an associate. "I wouldn't let him see it. He's never going to see that document. Got to protect the country."

"Cohn was not alone. Former staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Cohn and used the same tactic on multiple occasions, Woodward writes. In addition to literally stealing or hiding documents from Trump's desk, they sought to stall and delay decisions or distract Trump from orders they thought would endanger national security.

""A third of my job was trying to react to some of the really dangerous ideas that he had and try to give him reasons to believe that maybe they weren't such good ideas," said Porter, who as staff secretary handled the flow of presidential papers until he quit amid domestic violence allegations. He and others acted with the acquiescence of former chief of staff Reince Priebus, Woodward reports. "
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I prefer fiction as well. That being said, I may very well read this one. Just the few revelations in the CNN article are terrifying.

"The book opens with a dramatic scene. Former chief economic adviser Gary Cohn saw a draft letter he considered dangerous to national security on the Oval Office desk.

"The letter would have withdrawn the US from a critical trade agreement with South Korea. Trump's aides feared the fallout could jeopardize a top-secret national security program: the ability to detect a North Korean missile launch within just seven seconds.
Woodward reports Cohn was "appalled" that Trump might sign the letter. "I stole it off his desk," Cohn told an associate. "I wouldn't let him see it. He's never going to see that document. Got to protect the country."

"Cohn was not alone. Former staff secretary Rob Porter worked with Cohn and used the same tactic on multiple occasions, Woodward writes. In addition to literally stealing or hiding documents from Trump's desk, they sought to stall and delay decisions or distract Trump from orders they thought would endanger national security.

""A third of my job was trying to react to some of the really dangerous ideas that he had and try to give him reasons to believe that maybe they weren't such good ideas," said Porter, who as staff secretary handled the flow of presidential papers until he quit amid domestic violence allegations. He and others acted with the acquiescence of former chief of staff Reince Priebus, Woodward reports. "
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Yikes, we really do have a Toddler in Chief.
 
I liked this bit:

Trump's lawyer, convinced the President would perjure himself, put Trump through a test — a practice interview for the one he might have with Mueller. Trump failed ...

Then, in an even more remarkable move, Dowd and Trump's current personal attorney Jay Sekulow went to Mueller's office and re-enacted the mock interview. Their goal: to argue that Trump couldn't possibly testify because he was incapable of telling the truth.

"He just made something up. That's his nature," Dowd said to Mueller.
 
Kacper said:
Not I. I am sure you democrats will eat it up. That guy I used to know Roger Wilkens (now deceased) was on the WaPo staff during Watergate. He didn't have much good to say about Woodward. He had much more respect for Carl Bernstein as a journalist. Said Woodward was overly dramatic and a lot of the stuff like the flower pot in the window thing was total BS manufactured up by Woodward as Woodward would claim he was going to meet Deep Throat with these type stories when he knew for certain Woodward had never even left the building before "returning from his meeting".
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Remember that Woodward is a Republican.. Would you prefer he sugar coat it and pretend that Trump is normal and sane?
 
some of the President's top advisers view him as a danger to national security and have sought to circumvent the commander in chief.
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This should not even be open to debate.
Putting a dim witted, arrogant, clueless, dangerously incompetent, vindictive fool in charge of America's foreign policy is a recipe for disaster.

It's George Dumbya Bush on steroids!
 
Phantasmal said:
I will probably buy it for my hubby. I am into fiction, lately, I go through phases, I’ll read non fiction till I’m burnt out, then I find lighter reading. Historical fiction is my genre right now.
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That is a great genre. Sorry to distract from the thread, but anything in particular at present?
My philosophy may be akin to yours -- pollute your mind with the deplorable Trump?

To me, Trump is barely even worth listening too, and the corruption and criminality swirling around him is impossible for me to keep track of.

My intellectual and literary endeavors at the present time focus on the history of religion and science, with some Solzhenitsyn and Bulgakov thrown in for good measure. I can barely keep my sweaty little palms off it!
 
Cypress said:
This should not even be open to debate.
Putting a dim witted, arrogant, clueless, dangerously incompetent, vindictive fool in charge of America's foreign policy is a recipe for disaster.

It's George Dumbya Bush on steroids!
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think of it

the only living republican presidents both lied to the people repeatedly
 
kudzu said:
Remember that Woodward is a Republican.. Would you prefer he sugar coat it and pretend that Trump is normal and sane?
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I don't care what party he belongs to and I really don't care about palace intrigue. I voted for Stein so I knew I had lost the election before I cast my ballot. However, since the guy who won a Pulitzer prize for his editorials on Watergate told me that was his opinion of Woodward as a journalist, then I have no reason to believe that his opinion was not grounded in what he was observing going on at the paper at the time. Roger had his own flair for the dramatic and gilding his own lily, but I have never seen anything that made me believe his opinions were unfounded or facts inaccurate about anything I ever heard him say. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.006f3d552ba1
 
Cypress said:
That is a great genre. Sorry to distract from the thread, but anything in particular at present?
My philosophy may be akin to yours -- pollute your mind with the deplorable Trump?

To me, Trump is barely even worth listening too, and the corruption and criminality swirling around him is impossible for me to keep track of.

My intellectual and literary endeavors at the present time focus on the history of religion and science, with some Solzhenitsyn and Bulgakov thrown in for good measure. I can barely keep my sweaty little palms off it!
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I have ordered a couple of books by Kathleen McCullough. I just finished Allen W Eckert series.
 
Kacper said:
I don't care what party he belongs to and I really don't care about palace intrigue. I voted for Stein so I knew I had lost the election before I cast my ballot. However, since the guy who won a Pulitzer prize for his editorials on Watergate told me that was his opinion of Woodward as a journalist, then I have no reason to believe that his opinion was not grounded in what he was observing going on at the paper at the time. Roger had his own flair for the dramatic and gilding his own lily, but I have never seen anything that made me believe his opinions were unfounded or facts inaccurate about anything I ever heard him say. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.006f3d552ba1
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Stein was sitting at the same table with Putin that Flynn was idiot
 
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