This is historic

Trump does not deserve the credit for this in any way.

BUT EVEN IF HE DID...

...Donald Trump is still the most classless, ignorant, disgusting persons ever to hold the presidency...with the possible exception of the president he holds in such high esteem, Andrew Jackson.

Donald Trump is an abomination; a man who gives credence to the worst thoughts of people around the world who hold American in scorn and contempt.

He will always be that...even if he were to invent a perpetual motion machine...or a renewable, extremely low cost source of electric power.

He is a man with no class...little knowledge and even less interest in actually learning.
 
Darth Omar said:
It wasn’t Trump’s rhetoric so much as the credible threat that lurked behind it.

Kim has never known a credible threat until Trump came along. China, also perceived Trump to be a credible threat to NK so they finally got serious.

And it’s turned out that Kim is most probably a rational actor, after all.
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Credible threat, meaning crazy enough to start a nuclear war and WWWIII?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Nope, he's a guy who's lived under NK's mushroom cloud-shaped shadow his entire life. Trump? Not so much. Sorry, but telling NK that his buttons are bigger than theirs hardly qualifies the Orange Tard for anything other than the Best Blowhard in 1st Grade award.

The real reason why suddenly Kim has done an about face? The destruction of NK's nuclear facility late last year, due to a collapse of the mountain under which it was built. This is a face-saving move. Doesn't matter the reason though. It's good news for SK and for the world too.
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Under growing pressure from President Trump, lil' rocketman accelerated his nuclear icbm program, causing his scientists to make mistakes, and accidentally blow the site up.

LIl' Rocketman's move against Trump, backfired on him.

Somehow with Mr. Trump, ... it's like ... I'm rubber you're glue, everything you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

:dunno:
 
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dont think this will happen. NK is a complete shithole, SK is a 1st world nation. No one will want the burden of a shithole NK, it would be like America adopting mexico or haiti.

IMO it'll be a very slow incremental change over generations
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same thing was true for east and west Germany, yet that happened....but still I don't see it happening in Kim's lifetime.....
 
moon said:
It's really quite simple. The Chinese peninsular has united in a writ very large;

YANQUI- GO HOME. Please.

and there's only one country which can totally fuck up the detente .
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We’d love to leave.

But will they hail Trump if we do lol? Do realize there could be images of Koreans in Red MAGA ball caps taking to the streets in celebration?

That’s entirely conceivable. You should prepare yourself.
 
moon said:
Which club in particular ?
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Its completely dark...


North Korea: it's not a problem that our country goes dark at night | The ...



https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Asia



Feb 9, 2015 - A photo taken from space and showing a pitch black North Korea next to a brightly lit South Korea is one of the most famous images of the country. And the country's ruling regime has responded to the picture, hitting out at critics of the state
 
Images Of North Korea At Night | IFLScience



www.iflscience.com/space/images-north-korea-night/






Though the vast expanses of light allow you to see cities and outlines of entire countries, it also makes it obvious that something is missing: North Korea. New images taken from the International Space Station help illustrate that point, as North Korea's capital city of Pyongyang is a faint smudge of light in comparison to South ...
 
kudzu said:
Images Of North Korea At Night | IFLScience



www.iflscience.com/space/images-north-korea-night/






Though the vast expanses of light allow you to see cities and outlines of entire countries, it also makes it obvious that something is missing: North Korea. New images taken from the International Space Station help illustrate that point, as North Korea's capital city of Pyongyang is a faint smudge of light in comparison to South ...
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That video is chilling.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Of course, now that he's our new buddy. Before he was our new buddy, he was dangerously insane, unstable, and most likely a megalomaniac bent on world destruction. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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I guess we just overlook all those people he murdered, as we do Putin, they are really great guys.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Trump does not deserve the credit for this in any way.

BUT EVEN IF HE DID...

...Donald Trump is still the most classless, ignorant, disgusting persons ever to hold the presidency...with the possible exception of the president he holds in such high esteem, Andrew Jackson.

Donald Trump is an abomination; a man who gives credence to the worst thoughts of people around the world who hold American in scorn and contempt.

He will always be that...even if he were to invent a perpetual motion machine...or a renewable, extremely low cost source of electric power.

He is a man with no class...little knowledge and even less interest in actually learning.
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He will take credit, history will be the judge.
 
This is definitely historic and rare good news.

No doubt some credit goes to President Trump. This will be seen as a feather in his cap.

I remain unconvinced this is completely of his doing.

It could be that he simply stumbled into a situation which was already in progress. NK has done this over an over in a way. They build up weapons and defenses, then negotiate for aid. Then, after getting some help, they begin building up weaponry again as their people starve and use candles.

Kim wanted to build the missiles and nukes before he began negotiations so that he could negotiate from a position of greater power. If the peace process does not include enough concessions benefiting NK, they will go back into the same old loop.
 
Darth Omar said:
You can’t subtract Trump from the equation and historians almost certainly won’t even try.

But yeah, to think the people of NK have a legitimate shot at improving their plight is a welcome thought.
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I have been message boarding for close to two decades, and I have virtually never seen conservatives taking the time to express genuine concern about the humanitarian plight of the North Korean people. It was months ago that your Orange Hero was talking about bombing North Korea back to the stone age in an epic firestorm of military strikes. A vast crime against humanity, when you really think about it.

So, I do not think you have any consistent, long-standing, genuine concern for the humanitarian needs of the North Korean people...and you simply see this as another opportunity to slip on a cheerleading skirt, pick up some pom-poms, and cheer for your Orange Pig.
 
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PoliTalker said:
This is definitely historic and rare good news.

No doubt some credit goes to President Trump. This will be seen as a feather in his cap.

I remain unconvinced this is completely of his doing.

It could be that he simply stumbled into a situation which was already in progress. NK has done this over an over in a way. They build up weapons and defenses, then negotiate for aid. Then, after getting some help, they begin building up weaponry again as their people starve and use candles.

Kim wanted to build the missiles and nukes before he began negotiations so that he could negotiate from a position of greater power. If the peace process does not include enough concessions benefiting NK, they will go back into the same old loop.
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Their testing facility being destroyed is also major, but you made some good points.
 
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