The Democratic party is the enemy

They can't get one, so they come here for work. While I don't condone committing a crime to enter the country illegally, the fact remains that many are crossing the border to find work. Remember, Mexico is suffering from having to live under brutal drug cartels, corrupt or non-existent police, and many corrupt in government. While we do have our corruption here, it is NOTHING like what they have in Mexico. This is why they are willing to cross, even illegally. They are fleeing conditions in Mexico for the dream of the United States.

Even a farm hand is a better job for them than what they get back home.

I don't care and it's why we have a worker program.

Illegals shouldn't get anything.
 
Leave it to Republicans to pick on the Vets, the elderly, the disabled & children.

Specifically; how are Republicans picking on Vets, the elderly, the disabled and Children? What a pile of stupid. :rolleyes:

But, a lot of homeless are awaiting section 8 & or didability.

In other words, Government is failing. ;)

BTW.
Capitalism causes poverty too.

How? Be specific.

Republicans commonly blame low wage workers for being that.

LIE and LAME. :rolleyes:

Capitalism requires the jobs it does & so long as the market sets poverty wages for sone jobs that will be the case.

It is apparent that you are uneducated in economics, sociology and lack any common sense. The market does not set any wages workers are unwilling to work for. No on is forced to work for less than they think they are worth as long as there are plenty of jobs for those who wish to work.

If you had an education beyond high school, you could comprehend the obvious

Even if everyone had a 140 IQ & a PhD degree some would still be mowing lawns, flipping burgers & cleaning toilets.

I love it when uneducated leftists have to resort to FANTASY to make their moronic arguments and strawman claims. :rolleyes:
 
Actually under LBJ poverty declined by a lot due his social programs.

LBJ is also the top economic GDP producer since FDR.

BULL SHIT. Prove this false claim. By the way, if the War on Poverty had worked after throwing $20 trillion at it, we wouldn't have MORE Americans in poverty today than when the program started.

That's because the money is dumped back into the economy by consumerism.

You don't know what you are bloviating about. :rolleyes:

As for giving people better jobs?

The system dictates many menial low paying jobs.

This is pure nonsense. It's obvious you are uneducated.

Also many people can't work much if at all due to disabilities.

Really? How many and where are all these "disabled" people and disabilities are they suffering. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not a Copernicus or Einstein.
True.

But, certainly more intelligent than many on the forum. Including Trumpies & Commies.

I don't see any evidence of your intelligence. I see a fool who bloviates lame, dumb lie filled leftist claims like an uneducated lemming. ;)
 
Because again, you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

The market does not set 'poverty' wages. 'Poverty' is a word defined by government. Wages are set by how useful you are to someone willing to pay you money, just like any business.

They can help themselves. That's the beauty of capitalism.

Bigotry. It is YOU that wants socialism. Socialism is theft of wealth. It is YOU that is thoughtless. You are just chanting.

ANYONE can work, even those with no legs...even those who are blind. I had a friend that had polio as a child and lost the use of his legs. He started FOUR successful companies. I had another that is blind...best piano tuner you could find.

People making money from producing something useful doesn't matter???!?

People with little money do not have much to support consumerism. Socialism is theft. That is taking money from someone else that is producing (and their consumerism) and giving it to someone that is unproductive (and has little consumerism).

I understand Libertardian Crapitalism & also Marxshits Conmenism.

Both should be avoided like the plague.

Capitalism sets poverty wages.
Minimum wage & below is a poverty wage.

Individualists are so shortsighted.

First off many people can't work much & or gain degrees or much skills.

This is largely because of genetics & biology

Things like Schizophrenia, Diabetes, Multiple Sclerosis, down syndrome, other forms of mental sluggishness, fibromyalgia, PTSD, Bi Polar, heart disease, stroke, Parkinson's can shatter a person's ability to get a job much less get ahead.
 
I don't see any evidence of your intelligence. I see a fool who bloviates lame, dumb lie filled leftist claims like an uneducated lemming. ;)

I'm actually a Right Winger by Classical Definitions.

Some very smart people live in the USA mostly cluster around Northern & Wrest Coast cities of groups like Hindus, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, Poles, Italians, Irish Catholics etc.

Many ignorant people reside in the USA too.

Many if the misfits & trash of Scotland, England & Germany ended up in the South & Middle Merica.

They're understanding of politics is infantile typically.
 
Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

Extreme freedom & extreme totalitarianism both tend to fail.

The South & Die hard Republicans are almost universally despised far beyond just Democrats but by most of the World.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

I don't know any homeless?
Really?

The vivid idiocy of thinking you know a person you know nothing about is a vivid ignorance & down right delusion.

Actually I have 4 friends who are homeless.

2 are awaiting their court case for Disability.

1 works minimum wage & can't afford rent.

The 3rd my best friend got laid off & she couldn't afford her apartment with meager unemployment benefits.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

Lie.

Lie.

Buzzword fallacy. You are chanting again. Insult fallacy. Bigotry. Argument from randU fallacy.

WRONG. Unions take their cut and leave you what's left. In return, they impose price controls. Price controls do not work.

Bigotry. Outsourcing occurs because of price controls imposed by unions and government. It goes to more than just China.

Who are YOU to decide who gets to work??!? You are not the king. YOU do not get to decide who gets to partake in capitalism.

Who are YOU to decide who gets to work??!?
Individualists don't tend to care beyond"Me, Mine & Now"

Truly savages who can't think outside of the box or empathize.

I absolutely do care about those struggling.

No its not.
Unions tanked in the 80s & 90s.

Jobs only outsourced more after that.

Because of Capitalist greed.

This outsourcing is the epitome of anti- Patriotic actions.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

WRONG. It is about the individual being productive, nothing more. Socialism steals from that individual. Socialism is theft.

They do get it. You don't.

You just described yourself.

WRONG. It's about producing something that someone is willing to pay for.

Oh my goodness you are thick.

An individual can't make a modern economy doof.

Its a team effort or collective.

Theft?
Productivity?
You mean CEOs?

What do CEOs produce of value anymore?

They increased their salaries while exploiting cheap labor in foreignerd by increasing profits for elites in the stock market.

While the masses are going backwards in wages due to CEO actions hostile to them?

A nurse, fire fighter, teacher, an art therapist , a scientist are 100 times more valuable to our society than CEO scumbags.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

WRONG. It is about the individual being productive, nothing more. Socialism steals from that individual. Socialism is theft.

They do get it. You don't.

You just described yourself.

WRONG. It's about producing something that someone is willing to pay for.

I'm not an extreme collectivist but a moderate one.

Libertarians always say Communism has no utopia.

True.

Likewise where is the Libertarian utopia?

Somalia?

Give me a break.

Communists & Libertarians are a pimple on societies @$$.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

I see that you have meaningless leftist talking points memorized. :rolleyes:

By classical definitions & European ones I'm on the Right.

I on the whole support Catholic Theocratic values, Nationalist values, Cultural values I'm anti- Abortion, anti-Islamic refugee & don't believe in inherent equality.

I hate to inform you but that's the Righr Wing.

The first Leftists were actually Capitalism.

Classical Liberalism, Neo-Liberalism are just terms for Capitalism, Democracy & deregulation.

Of course White trash Merica botched the definitions.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

Specifically; how are Republicans picking on Vets, the elderly, the disabled and Children? What a pile of stupid. :rolleyes:



In other words, Government is failing. ;)



How? Be specific.



LIE and LAME. :rolleyes:



It is apparent that you are uneducated in economics, sociology and lack any common sense. The market does not set any wages workers are unwilling to work for. No on is forced to work for less than they think they are worth as long as there are plenty of jobs for those who wish to work.

If you had an education beyond high school, you could comprehend the obvious



I love it when uneducated leftists have to resort to FANTASY to make their moronic arguments and strawman claims. :rolleyes:

Capitalism, genetics, biology, misfortune are common causes of poverty.

Yes, Capitalism promotes scab wages for many jobs.

Only the ignorant don't get it.

Explain why you don't understand how the market only creates so many high paying jobs?

There can only be as many CEOs, Business owners, Doctors, Dentists, Engineers & Lawyers as the market demands.

Pretty simple.
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

BULL SHIT. Prove this false claim. By the way, if the War on Poverty had worked after throwing $20 trillion at it, we wouldn't have MORE Americans in poverty today than when the program started.



You don't know what you are bloviating about. :rolleyes:



This is pure nonsense. It's obvious you are uneducated.



Really? How many and where are all these "disabled" people and disabilities are they suffering. :rolleyes:

Look at a poverty rate chart by years.
Poverty nearly cut in half under LBJ.

LBJ had a bigger amount of GDP growth than every US president since.

Because those who get Disability often have to go before courts for up to years before getting claims filed.
Especially for mental illness claims.
 
Now note the timeline in which that happened. The vast majority of the increase in gas production and all of the increase in petroleum production occurred under the Obama administration.

So does this give you an idea of how divorced from reality wingnut conservatives are living in their alternate reality of alternate facts?

uh, dude.....Bush issued the permits for that production......Obama cancelled the process in January, 2009........the increased production which occurred under the Obama administration is what he couldn't stop........
 
Again, because you can't wrap your head around capitalism.

Yes. That is what I said.

You don't know any homeless.

WRONG. Wages are set by market forces. Price controls don't work.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

If you are pushed out, it's your fault.

Insult fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy. Bigotry.

Freedom in and of itself is good for bettering society.

You don't get to speak for anyone else. You only get to speak for you. Insult fallacies. Bigotry.

we don't ban lib'ruls......no matter how much they deserve it......

Yes, Neo-Liberals & Commies.
 
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