Yup.
Been asking from the beginning why Manafort shared confidential GOP polling data with Kilimnik to share with Deripaska?
Now we know why.
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Yup.
Been asking from the beginning why Manafort shared confidential GOP polling data with Kilimnik to share with Deripaska?
Now we know why.
No, he wasn't a State Department source. You've been lying about that from the beginning, and now the Republican Intel Committee confirms it.
Now we know why Manafort shared polling data with Deripaska, using Kilimnik as the go-between.
HA HA HA. ask BAC. Or ALTHEA..
are you that much of a brain dead partisan you can't conceive of voting for a Repub? too bad
Manafort’s Russian Aide Communicated With Ex-U.S. Officials
https://www.thedailybeast.com/manaf...nik-spoke-with-ex-state-dept-officials-report
I still don't believe you, and I have voted Republican... just not right wing fascist.
Alan Purcell, the chief political officer at the Kiev embassy from 2014 to 2017, told FBI agents that State officials, including senior embassy officials Alexander Kasanof and Eric Schultz, deemed Kilimnik to be such a valuable asset that they kept his name out of cables for fear he would be compromised by leaks to WikiLeaks.
“Purcell described what he considered an unusual level of discretion that was taken with handling Kilimnik,” states one FBI interview report that I reviewed. “Normally the head of the political section would not handle sources, but Kasanof informed Purcell that KILIMNIK was a sensitive source.”
This relationship was described in “hundreds of pages of government documents” that Solomon reports Mueller “possessed since 2018.” The FBI, he added, knew all about Kilimnik’s status as a State Department informant before the conclusion of Mueller’s investigation.
This is one of a growing number of examples of people whose status as documented U.S. informants goes unmentioned in the Mueller report, where they are instead described under the general heading, “Russian government links to, and contact with, the Trump campaign.”
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/expos-in-the-hill-challenges-mueller
^Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi
“Purcell described what he considered an unusual level of discretion that was taken with handling Kilimnik,” states one FBI interview report that I reviewed. “Normally the head of the political section would not handle sources, but Kasanof informed Purcell that KILIMNIK was a sensitive source.”
This relationship was described in “hundreds of pages of government documents” that Solomon reports Mueller “possessed since 2018.” The FBI, he added, knew all about Kilimnik’s status as a State Department informant before the conclusion of Mueller’s investigation.
This is one of a growing number of examples of people whose status as documented U.S. informants goes unmentioned in the Mueller report, where they are instead described under the general heading, “Russian government links to, and contact with, the Trump campaign.”
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/expos-in-the-hill-challenges-mueller
^Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi
Manafort’s Russian Aide Communicated With Ex-U.S. Officials
https://www.thedailybeast.com/manaf...nik-spoke-with-ex-state-dept-officials-report
"Communicated with ex-US officials"
How does that make him a State Department Asset?
BTW - your Republican friends just said he was a Russian Intelligence Asset.
So either the GOP is wrong or you are.
HA HA HA
Trump is a Nazi" -get real. soooo pathetic.
I gave you 2 contacts who would know. I dont GAF if you believe or not- not my concern
And yet, not one single state department document has been shared that proves this.
Weird.
So we have you plagairizing Taibbi, offering no proof of your assertions, which are in conflict with what the GOP-led Senate Committee said yesterday.
So either they were wrong, or you are.
Also, why would Manafort give confidential GOP polling data to Kilimnik to give to Deripaska, if Kilimnik was State department asset?
Taibbi won't answer that question. In fact, he blocks people on Twitter who do.
Trump said Nazis were "very fine people".
Warner is driving the INTEL committee- Burr is just along for the ride as a #neverTrump
Read the Rolling Stone link - it goes into sloppy Mueller]s characterization of others as well ( like Felix Slater)
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/expos-in-the-hill-challenges-mueller
"some people on both sides" meaning the protestors, not the Nazis -but I refuse to waste my time debating Dem memes with you further
Take me through your logic here...
You admit (finally) that Manafort was handing confidential GOP polling data to Kilimnik to pass on to Deripaska.
But then you say that Kilimnik was actually a state department asset...did Manafort know that when he was sharing the polling data with Kilimnik to give to Deripaska?
Are you alleging that Manafort was set up by Kilimnik and the State Department to trick him into thinking he was colluding with Russia by giving Kilimnik the polling data to target with their active measures?
So then wouldn't Kilimnik have been the state's witness for Mueller?
Right, it's all a conspiracy to make you look dumb on an anonymous internet forum.
Did Manafort know Kilimnik was a State Department asset when he was giving him confidential GOP polling data to hand to Deripaska? And does that mean that Kilmnik was the source for Mueller in his investigation about this? Why no, because that would make no sense.
So you claim because Kilimnik was a State Department asset, Paul Manafort wasn't colluding with Russia at Trump's direction? So...he was set up?
NYTimes, which has become a dependable venue for the gentle spinning of soon-to-be-released dispositive information about the collusion theory, wrote a long feature on Kilimnik in February: “Russian Spy or Hustling Political Operative? The Enigmatic Figure at the Heart of Mueller’s Inquiry.”
That piece, based on “dozens of interviews, court filings and other documents,” described Kilimnik as an “operator who moved easily between Russian, Ukrainian and American patrons, playing one off the other while leaving a jumble of conflicting suspicions in his wake.”
The Times added:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/politics/konstantin-kilimnik-russia.html
To American diplomats in Washington and Kiev, [Kilimnik] has been a well-known character for nearly a decade, developing a reputation as a broker of valuable information…
The paper noted that Kilimnik traveled “freely” to the U.S. and appeared to reference the dinner with Kasanof, noting Kilimnik “in May 2016 met senior State Department officials for drinks at the Off the Record bar.”
The Nazis were the pro-racism protesters. They were the same people. He called them "very fine people". So which of them were fine? The ones carrying the torches screaming "Jews will not replace us", or the ones who got in their cars and ran people over?
so you are dragging yourself unwittingly towards the truth. that's an improvement.
again everything you trot out has been addressed by Taibbi -the article has hyperlinks as well.
Mueller (Andrew Weissmann) was sloppy , and had no compunction not providing exculpatory evidence
as he has been roundly criticized and over-turned before for not doing so .
MSNBC and the shrill mob are the same -
you have been severely played and are just now coming to grips with your TDS blindness
They were protesting flag removal or some shit. I dont know and dont care to look
both sides were violent - the cops were absentee. I dont GAF further
So then he was a Russian Intelligence asset, then.
So did Manafort know that when he was handing him confidential GOP polling data?
So how does this prove he was a State Department Asset. From what you wrote, he seems to have been a Russian Intelligence Asset. That's why Manafort was giving him polling data, right? That's what the Senate Report says.