TRUMP HAS AN ACE UP HIS SLEEVE - THE "JEFFERSON CARD"

domer76 said:
A lie of omission is the chronic RW “quote” of Hillary - “What does it matter“ concerning her Benghazi testimony.
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i see what you mean now. the fact they did not give her whole quote leaves out the meaning of what she said, that whether the attack on the mission was planned or not planned, or part of the arabic nations in general riots connected to the comments about Muhammad, did not matter when it came to how we reacted to that attack as fast as we could.
 
1) No way the Democrats nominate Biden.
2) No way Biden lives to Election Day.
3) Biden won’t debate, he has dementia.
4) Biden will lose this debate hands down.
5) No way Trump* loses.
6) No way Trump lost Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada or Michigan.
7) No way the swing states will certify the vote.
8) No way Congress will count the swing state votes.
9) No way Biden will be inaugurated.
10) No way Biden’s presidency will succeed at anything.
11) No way Biden will get re-elected.

And on and on and on...
 
RomanDmowski said:
Hmm. You might be correct.
As he didn't respond.

However it is possible to be an Americaphile or one who appreciates America without living here.

Just as I live in America & am a Polophile.
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Eastern European history is unfortunately largely ignored in the AngloSaxon-centric history of north-western Europe dominating our public education curriculum. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Byzantine Empire are worthy of scrutiny at least as much as the Dutch Republic or the Kingdom of Scotland.

My paternal family were minor mobility in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until the partition of 1793, when the lands currently known as Belarus were ceded to the Russian Empire.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
i see what you mean now. the fact they did not give her whole quote leaves out the meaning of what she said, that whether the attack on the mission was planned or not planned, or part of the arabic nations in general riots connected to the comments about Muhammad, did not matter when it came to how we reacted to that attack as fast as we could.
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Yep, basically what she continued to say is how do we take that experience, learn from it and correct the mistakes.
 
Cypress said:
Eastern European history is unfortunately largely ignored in the AngloSaxon-centric history of north-western Europe dominating our public education curriculum. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Byzantine Empire are worthy of scrutiny at least as much as the Dutch Republic or the Kingdom of Scotland.

My paternal family were minor mobility in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until the partition of 1793, when the lands currently known as Belarus were ceded to the Russian Empire.
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That doesn't say much, Dutch were far less brutal than their neighbors.

As for Scots, disagree. Scots were part of the British Empire & played an instrumental role in oppressing Ireland as Ulster Scots who also came to the USA to mess with Nativr Americans. Like Andrew Jackson.

I love Belarus & Belarussians I think they are wonderful.
Czechs, Slovaks & Hungarians too.

Lithuanians & Ukrainians not do much.

Germans are terrible, except maybe for 20 years. Then they are now EU bullies.

Russians are not do great. But in all fairness Russia was hardly ever ruled by real true Russians.

Catherine thr Great was born in Germany & of course Stalin was Georgian & Lenin was Jewish. Kslkyk, Volga Germsn, Swedish etc.
 
RomanDmowski said:
That doesn't say much, Dutch were far less brutal than their neighbors.

As for Scots, disagree. Scots were part of the British Empire & played an instrumental role in oppressing Ireland as Ulster Scots who also came to the USA to mess with Nativr Americans. Like Andrew Jackson.

I love Belarus & Belarussians I think they are wonderful.
Czechs, Slovaks & Hungarians too.

Lithuanians & Ukrainians not do much.

Germans are terrible, except maybe for 20 years. Then they are now EU bullies.

Russians are not do great. But in all fairness Russia was hardly ever ruled by real true Russians.

Catherine thr Great was born in Germany & of course Stalin was Georgian & Lenin was Jewish. Kslkyk, Volga Germsn, Swedish etc.
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You spend way too much time on stereotypes and caricatures. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Germans, Lithuanians, Russians, Ukrainians.

Germany and Russia may have given us Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin, Beria. But they also gave us Mozart, Von Goethe, Schindler, Tolstoy, Solzhenitsyn, Tchaikovsky.
 
Cypress said:
Eastern European history is unfortunately largely ignored in the AngloSaxon-centric history of north-western Europe dominating our public education curriculum. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Byzantine Empire are worthy of scrutiny at least as much as the Dutch Republic or the Kingdom of Scotland.

My paternal family were minor mobility in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until the partition of 1793, when the lands currently known as Belarus were ceded to the Russian Empire.
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The situation of Ukraine & Poland is extremely complex.

Truth is most of Ukraine was Turkic until a few hundred years ago.

Cumans, Khazars, Kipchaks, Tatar among I believe others.
Before that it was Scythia Samartia.

Poland- Lithuanian gained Ukraine on the defense from Turkic Islamic Tatars who despite being decent folk today.
Tatar enslaved up to 4 million Eastern Europeans.

Cossacks are just Ruthenian losers joined by Poles & Russian Lithuanians etc to join this semi Turkic order of bandits.

Afterall Cossack is a Turkic term.

I don't have an issue with Rusyns.

But. Cossacks are to Slavs as Hillbillys are to Americans .

Poland I'll admit got on their nerves as Tax Collectors
& Then tried to do what was in Poland serfdom.

They mass murdered over a million Poles In the Cossack Uprisings.
Then 10s of thousands at the Uman massacres.

As for modern Ukraine.

Poland gained it from the Soviet offensive.

Honestly I wouldn't have let Ukraine in or given better autonomy.

That didn't excuse Wolyn massarcre where Ukrainians massacred MOSTLY WOMEN & CHILDREN in the fields they axed them, cut them in half, burned.

Sorry, but while many Poles prefer Ukrainians over Russians.

I don't. I think the issue id power Russia is way more powerful. But honestly Russisns aren't co.plete savages like Ukrainians & Cossacks.
 
Cypress said:
You spend way too much time on stereotypes and caricatures. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with Germans, Lithuanians, Russians, Ukrainians.

Germany and Russia may have given us Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin, Beria. But they also gave us Mozart, Von Goethe, Schindler, Tolstoy, Solzhenitsyn, Tchaikovsky.
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I can respect some German culture & Russian too.

But, let me ask you this?

What percentage of German intellect have Polish, Sorb, Wend, Czech & Slovak blood?

It sure seems like an awful lot.

I noticed you didn't mention people like Leibniz, Nietzsche, Immanuel Kant & Schopenhauer & Christian Wolff who are arguably Slavic mixed.

As for Russians similar applies with Poles, Belarusian & Ukrainians.

What about Doestoeveysky, Gogol, Stravinsky & yes Tchaikovsky how much of their blood id Polish & Ruthenian?
 
RomanDmowski said:
The situation of Ukraine & Poland is extremely complex.

Truth is most of Ukraine was Turkic until a few hundred years ago.

Cumans, Khazars, Kipchaks, Tatar among I believe others.
Before that it was Scythia Samartia.

Poland- Lithuanian gained Ukraine on the defense from Turkic Islamic Tatars who despite being decent folk today.
Tatar enslaved up to 4 million Eastern Europeans.

Cossacks are just Ruthenian losers joined by Poles & Russian Lithuanians etc to join this semi Turkic order of bandits.

Afterall Cossack is a Turkic term.

I don't have an issue with Rusyns.

But. Cossacks are to Slavs as Hillbillys are to Americans .

Poland I'll admit got on their nerves as Tax Collectors
& Then tried to do what was in Poland serfdom.

They mass murdered over a million Poles In the Cossack Uprisings.
Then 10s of thousands at the Uman massacres.

As for modern Ukraine.

Poland gained it from the Soviet offensive.

Honestly I wouldn't have let Ukraine in or given better autonomy.

That didn't excuse Wolyn massarcre where Ukrainians massacred MOSTLY WOMEN & CHILDREN in the fields they axed them, cut them in half, burned.

Sorry, but while many Poles prefer Ukrainians over Russians.

I don't. I think the issue id power Russia is way more powerful. But honestly Russisns aren't co.plete savages like Ukrainians & Cossacks.
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My grandmother came from an old Cossack family on the lower Don River, and she was a university graduate from Saint Petersburg, was accepted to medical school, and spent a career teaching.

If you choose to live with stereotypes and ethnic caricatures, you will never have a good appreciation for history and the human condition. You will only poison your soul by clinging to bigotry and bias.
 
Cypress said:
My grandmother came from an old Cossack family on the lower Don River, and she was a university graduate from Saint Petersburg, was accepted to medical school, and spent a career teaching.

If you choose to live with stereotypes and ethnic caricatures, you will never have a good appreciation for history and the human condition. You will only poison your soul by clinging to bigotry and bias.
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I very much can appreciate cultures.

I love Mexican food.

I love German Artist Friedrich

I love Chinese food.

But, I don't have to remain without opinions.
 
Cypress said:
My grandmother came from an old Cossack family on the lower Don River, and she was a university graduate from Saint Petersburg, was accepted to medical school, and spent a career teaching.

If you choose to live with stereotypes and ethnic caricatures, you will never have a good appreciation for history and the human condition. You will only poison your soul by clinging to bigotry and bias.
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Are you saying Appalachian Hillbillies can't graduate or something?
I think
The observation of comparing Appalachian Hillbillies to Ukrainian Cossacks is pretty spot on.

I don't have that much of an issue with Ukrainians.

I think the Ukrainian Klitschko Brothers were amazing boxers.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
i see what you mean now. the fact they did not give her whole quote leaves out the meaning of what she said, that whether the attack on the mission was planned or not planned, or part of the arabic nations in general riots connected to the comments about Muhammad, did not matter when it came to how we reacted to that attack as fast as we could.
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Benghazi had nothing to do with any cartoons or arab protests. Susan Rice went on the Sunday shows to lie that it did.

Hillary is culpable in that she helped unleash the "beasts of the east" - as Qaddafi called Libya's NTC et all

'we came we saw he died" ( Hillary on Qaddafi)
 
Cypress said:
Eastern European history is unfortunately largely ignored in the AngloSaxon-centric history of north-western Europe dominating our public education curriculum. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Byzantine Empire are worthy of scrutiny at least as much as the Dutch Republic or the Kingdom of Scotland.

My paternal family were minor mobility in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until the partition of 1793, when the lands currently known as Belarus were ceded to the Russian Empire.
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Poland Lithuania wasn't when MOST Polish crimes occurred.

Clearly it escalated with Poland from Pilsudski wars & Jozef Beck's anti Semitism.
Then into WW2.

Yes. Several pogroms.

Do you think I'm unaware of massacres & pogroms Jedwabne, Kielce, Bromberg & Lwow?

They the Zyd always remind us.
They the GERM Man's always remind us of Btomberg.

That is the Nationalists do.


PS.

Do you think Pilsudski & Jozef Beck had a choice but to be assertive?

Poles had to fight to be reborn.

As for Jews, they mostly thought they were Russian or German Jews by the 20th century.

They also controlled much of the Polish economy.
 
RomanDmowski said:
Are you saying Appalachian Hillbillies can't graduate or something?
I think
The observation of comparing Appalachian Hillbillies to Ukrainian Cossacks is pretty spot on.

I don't have that much of an issue with Ukrainians.

I think the Ukrainian Klitschko Brothers were amazing boxers.
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Cossacks are not just found in Ukraine.
Cossacks are a diffuse confederation of Slavic peoples found throughout the Eurasian steppes of eastern Ukraine, southern Russia, Caucasus, Kazakhstan.

Have you actually ever been to Ukraine or Russia?
Have you ever actually taken a college level class in Slavic studies, or read any of the classic Ukrainian and Russian literature?

It literally takes years of specialized university training to become an expert on the cultural, religious, and political history of the lands of the former imperial Russian Empire. I claim no scholarly expertise, but know enough to realize that ethnic caricature is the province of the uniformed and willfully bigoted.
 
Cypress said:
Cossacks are not just found in Ukraine.
Cossacks are a diffuse confederation of Slavic peoples found throughout the Eurasian steppes of eastern Ukraine, southern Russia, Caucasus, Kazakhstan.

Have you actually ever been to Ukraine or Russia?
Have you ever actually taken a college level class in Slavic studies, or read any of the classic Ukrainian and Russian literature?

It literally takes years of specialized university training to become an expert on the cultural, religious, and political history of the lands of the former imperial Russian Empire. I claim no scholarly expertise, but know enough to realize that ethnic caricature is the province of the uniformed and willfully bigoted.
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Some Ukrainians say Cossacks are Ukrainians.
Some think from the Don River in Russia to Krakow Poland are all Ukraine.

I've spoken to Don Cossacks online they admit their language is most like Ukrainian.

But, to be fair done Poles think from Berlin & Souther. Denmark & North Germany around Arkons the last Slaviv PAGAN settlement. All the way to Crimea is all Poland.
 
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