Nearly 40% of Marines have declined Covid-19 vaccine

Darth Omar said:
A pandemic is determined by the numbers of global infections.

What if a sufficient number of individuals get vaccinated that it loses its pandemic status? That’s a real possibility, especially when coupled with natural immunity numbers.

Can we go on with our lives then and not be bothered with masks and vaccine busy bodies?
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And then, after the vaccines wear off in those who took them, instead of the virus being wiped out, there are still cases out there and people still spreading it.

Soon, we're back to pandemic stage all over again.

All because of the selfish, short-sighted stupidity of a few kooks and malcontents who refuse to comply because they're such pussies they can't stand being told what to do.

Conservatives. :palm:
 
Nomad said:
Minor pain, some swelling around the injection site and some chills and fever.

Gone in a day or so.

BFD.

But you were talking about long term effects, weren't you?
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Yes, the ones that are impossible to know about in the short term because, well because, they are called long term side effects for a reason lol.

How long do you want to do this?
 
Concart said:
When I visited my kid last weekend, he expressed that they were having similar problems where he's stationed in the Army. They've made it difficult to get the vaccine, and they aren't doing a good job of selling the benefit. He's heard talk that it may become mandatory.
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As it should.
 
Darth Omar said:
Are you a virology denier?

Why should ridiculously healthy young men get vaccinated against a virus that poses practically no risk to them. And if they should happen to get it, it’s ridiculously probable they’ll get it, recover, then add to our herd immunity numbers.
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The Spanish Flu, which never originated in Spain, was spread throughout the world by the military.
 
Stone said:
Hmmmmmmmm... Whatever happened to being in control of your own body and having the right to keep medical options between the person and their doctor ? HIPAA anyone? :thinking:
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You lose the right to control your body when you join the military. The govt. owns you.
 
Walt said:
That is in general how the military works. Right now, the government is being very nice about the Covid-19 vaccine, and hoping that enough people will volunteer. This might not be what the future brings.
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How soon we forget the outbreak in the Navy that cost Crozier his job.
 
Althea said:
The Spanish Flu, which never originated in Spain, was spread throughout the world by the military.
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The Spanish Flu was also much more deadly because it affected young people.

Young healthy population gets the CCP Virus and they become herd immunity numbers.
 
Darth Omar said:
In so far as it’s not a traditional vaccine but a gene therapy that’s never been implemented on a broad scale—they are most definitely experimental.

Or maybe you can educate us on some of their long term side effects.
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There are none. In the 90's, it was experimental. They found that using synthetic RNA cured the problem with massive immune responses from the vaccine. Obama put hundreds of millions of dollars into the technology when he was POTUS
 
Stone said:
I should pull up those old polls when Trump was President. You know,....the ones put up by board lefties asking if they thought it was safe to take what they called the rushed into production TRUMP VACCINE? Lots of lefties said NO WAY. Now.... its all different. Gee,...wonder why? :rolleyes: ;)

Words matter......people do not forget what was said even if you wish they did. ;) Fucking maggot hypocrites.
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Nobody called it the trump vaccine. He had nothing to do with it.

It was the trump virus.
 
Nomad said:
That's because it WAS rushed into production.

Trump should have gotten it going months sooner but he was more concerned with denying the seriousness of the pandemic in order to keep his poll numbers up than getting a handle on the virus.

Besides, Trump had proven himself to be such an incompetent screw up so many times, nothing he had any involvement in was trustworthy.
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Correct. He made it an election issue, which he did with everything. As such, it was impossible to believe anything he said. He constantly contradicted the scientists w/regard to current vaccine data.
 
Stone said:
But it is the SAME vax now that it was then..........you lying asshole!
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There are two different types of vaccine. Production means actually manufacturing the vaccines. Not developing the science. Said science was proven effective under Obama.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Opie thinks COVID is no worse than the flu and that masks don't work. He's had several threads on the subject....some of which he's asked to be closed because they proved to be too personally embarrassing for a self-proclaimed medical expert.

The US Navy had to sideline a deployed aircraft carrier because of COVID. I fail to see how the services are not ensuring all of their personnel are properly vaccinated since it's a matter of national defense.
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Further, they tried to hide the outbreak, and got rid of Crozier for daring to protect his men.
 
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