Obama Presidential Center set to open.

Derivative in that it borrows heavily from existing architectural forms in its monolithic appearance,
Dude... EVERY building borrows heavily from existing architectural forms.

There's no such thing as a 100% original building design.
use of a granite facade, and windowless facia.
In case you don't know it, granite is a common building material.

Would it be less "derivative" if they had used marble?

Limestone?

Sandstone?

Slate?

These are all common exterior building materials, too.
Monotonous in that it doesn't bring any unique or memorable design qualities. It looks like so much else.
So show us a bunch of pictures of buildings that look like it.

Because I Googled it and came up with nothing.

And honestly, the more I talk about and research it, the more I'm coming to realize that the building is in fact, very unique looking.
Obtuse in that it doesn't resemble what it purports to be. That makes it stand out in a bad way. That makes it obtuse.

Not sure you understand the meaning of obtuse any better than non-sequitur.

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Obtuse is a word often used to describe trump and his MAGA supporters.
Trump's buildings are a combination of baroque and megalomaniacal. That is, they emphasize both the developer's (Trump) poor taste and inflated ego.
So you think poor taste is such a good thing it should be reflected in shitty architecture?

Odd the way you're pounding on Obama for what you claim is a poorly designed building, while boasting and bragging about how great trump's poorly designed buildings are. :dunno:
Obama's building looks like he was going for something unique but ended up with something bland that sticks out like a sore thumb, a true eye sore on the landscape.
How can something be bland and at the same time, stick out like a sore thumb????

Bland means something does NOT stand out.

What's sticking out like a sore thumb here, is your desperation to throw shade on Obama for anything you can come up with.
Trump's stuff can be ignored as it blends meaninglessly into the landscape it's set in.
Pedestrian IOW.

Run of the mill.

Derivative.
Trump's proposed library looks like it'd fit in some futuristic dystopian, cyberpunk movie rather than a library.
So, like I said before... flashy, tacky, gaudy, lacking substance or gravity.

Say what you will about The Obama Presidential Center, it has a sense of gravity.

A sense of seriousness befitting the man and the office he successfully held and watched over for eight years.

You MAGAnuts are just jealous.
 
There are NO taxpayer dollars use in these type of projects, they are funded by donations.

The Obama Presidential Library is primarily funded through private donations raised by the Obama Foundation, with no federal funds used for construction, though a promised $470 million endowment to protect taxpayers remains largely unfunded.

Private Donations and Foundation Support
The Obama Foundation is responsible for raising nearly all funds for the construction of the Obama Presidential Center, which includes the library, museum, community forum, athletic center, and a Chicago Public Library branch
. By the end of 2023, the foundation had raised approximately $1.5 billion in contributions, with net assets of $962 million, keeping it on track toward a $1.6 billion fundraising goal
Obviously, as usual, you are wrong. Can you name one time you have been right about anything? Just one? Of course not.

Did taxpayers pay for the Obama Library?


AI Overview


Taxpayers are not paying to construct the Obama Presidential Center buildings, but they are funding hundreds of millions of dollars in surrounding public infrastructure and will bear the long-term costs of operating its federal archives.
Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
The funding breakdown is divided into three main areas:

  • Construction: The buildings themselves are being financed entirely by private donations raised by the Obama Foundation.
    Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
  • Infrastructure:City and state taxpayers are on the hook for extensive public works to support the massive campus, including redesigned roads, utility relocations, and park redesigns. These taxpayer-funded public infrastructure costs are estimated to exceed


    million.
    • Operations & Upkeep: While traditional presidential library exhibits are privately funded, federal tax dollars (managed by the National Archives and Records Administration) cover the salaries, security, and maintenance of the historical archives. To offset this, the Presidential Historical Records Preservation Act requires President Obama to provide an endowment representing 60% of the cost of the federal facilities. Critics have raised concerns that this promised endowment remains largely unfunded.

There are NO taxpayer dollars use in these type of projects, they are funded by donations.

The Obama Presidential Library is primarily funded through private donations raised by the Obama Foundation, with no federal funds used for construction, though a promised $470 million endowment to protect taxpayers remains largely unfunded.

Private Donations and Foundation Support
The Obama Foundation is responsible for raising nearly all funds for the construction of the Obama Presidential Center, which includes the library, museum, community forum, athletic center, and a Chicago Public Library branch
. By the end of 2023, the foundation had raised approximately $1.5 billion in contributions, with net assets of $962 million, keeping it on track toward a $1.6 billion fundraising goal
Once again you are just wrong. Completely. Learn how to read your own link you fucking democrat dunce. Your complete lack of obviously any type of education is glaring.

Public Contributions​

While federal funds were not used for construction, municipal, state, and federal entities contributed to public infrastructure around the site, including roads, mobility improvements, and park enhancements, totaling roughly $123–$175 million
factually.co
factually.co+1. The land for the 19.3-acre campus was transferred to the Obama Foundation under a 99-year agreement for $10, giving the foundation exclusive control for construction and maintenance
Fox News
Fox News+1.

Endowment and Taxpayer Concerns​

As part of the agreement with the city, the Obama Foundation pledged to create a $470 million reserve fund to protect taxpayers in case of financial shortfalls. However, as of recent reports, only $1 million has been deposited, representing just 0.21% of the pledged amount, and no further contributions have been made
Fox News
Fox News+1. This has raised concerns that taxpayers could be exposed to financial risk if the project encounters cost overruns or revenue shortfalls, especially given the rising construction costs from an initial estimate of $330 million to at least $850 million
Fox News
Fox News+1.
 
Obviously, as usual, you are wrong. Can you name one time you have been right about anything? Just one? Of course not.

Did taxpayers pay for the Obama Library?


AI Overview


Taxpayers are not paying to construct the Obama Presidential Center buildings, but they are funding hundreds of millions of dollars in surrounding public infrastructure and will bear the long-term costs of operating its federal archives.
Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
The funding breakdown is divided into three main areas:

  • Construction: The buildings themselves are being financed entirely by private donations raised by the Obama Foundation.
    Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
  • Infrastructure:City and state taxpayers are on the hook for extensive public works to support the massive campus, including redesigned roads, utility relocations, and park redesigns. These taxpayer-funded public infrastructure costs are estimated to exceed


    million.
    • Operations & Upkeep: While traditional presidential library exhibits are privately funded, federal tax dollars (managed by the National Archives and Records Administration) cover the salaries, security, and maintenance of the historical archives. To offset this, the Presidential Historical Records Preservation Act requires President Obama to provide an endowment representing 60% of the cost of the federal facilities. Critics have raised concerns that this promised endowment remains largely unfunded.


Once again you are just wrong. Completely. Learn how to read your own link you fucking democrat dunce. Your complete lack of obviously any type of education is glaring.

Public Contributions​

While federal funds were not used for construction, municipal, state, and federal entities contributed to public infrastructure around the site, including roads, mobility improvements, and park enhancements, totaling roughly $123–$175 million
factually.co
factually.co+1. The land for the 19.3-acre campus was transferred to the Obama Foundation under a 99-year agreement for $10, giving the foundation exclusive control for construction and maintenance
Fox News
Fox News+1.

Endowment and Taxpayer Concerns​

As part of the agreement with the city, the Obama Foundation pledged to create a $470 million reserve fund to protect taxpayers in case of financial shortfalls. However, as of recent reports, only $1 million has been deposited, representing just 0.21% of the pledged amount, and no further contributions have been made
Fox News
Fox News+1. This has raised concerns that taxpayers could be exposed to financial risk if the project encounters cost overruns or revenue shortfalls, especially given the rising construction costs from an initial estimate of $330 million to at least $850 million
Fox News
Fox News+1.
Fox news :lolup: :lolup: :lolup: :lolup:
 
Thanks, @Guno צְבִי, for posting this. We've been talking about going to Chicago to see the museums for ages. This one will be on the list.
My brother lives in Chicago and works in the news. He'll probably have to cover the center's opening. If that means going to it, I don't know. He will definitely write and post videos, though.
 
Obviously, as usual, you are wrong. Can you name one time you have been right about anything? Just one? Of course not.

Did taxpayers pay for the Obama Library?


AI Overview


Taxpayers are not paying to construct the Obama Presidential Center buildings, but they are funding hundreds of millions of dollars in surrounding public infrastructure and will bear the long-term costs of operating its federal archives.
Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
The funding breakdown is divided into three main areas:

  • Construction: The buildings themselves are being financed entirely by private donations raised by the Obama Foundation.
    Facebook·Darren Bailey +1
  • Infrastructure:City and state taxpayers are on the hook for extensive public works to support the massive campus, including redesigned roads, utility relocations, and park redesigns. These taxpayer-funded public infrastructure costs are estimated to exceed


    million.
    • Operations & Upkeep: While traditional presidential library exhibits are privately funded, federal tax dollars (managed by the National Archives and Records Administration) cover the salaries, security, and maintenance of the historical archives. To offset this, the Presidential Historical Records Preservation Act requires President Obama to provide an endowment representing 60% of the cost of the federal facilities. Critics have raised concerns that this promised endowment remains largely unfunded.


Once again you are just wrong. Completely. Learn how to read your own link you fucking democrat dunce. Your complete lack of obviously any type of education is glaring.

Public Contributions​

While federal funds were not used for construction, municipal, state, and federal entities contributed to public infrastructure around the site, including roads, mobility improvements, and park enhancements, totaling roughly $123–$175 million
factually.co
factually.co+1. The land for the 19.3-acre campus was transferred to the Obama Foundation under a 99-year agreement for $10, giving the foundation exclusive control for construction and maintenance
Fox News
Fox News+1.

Endowment and Taxpayer Concerns​

As part of the agreement with the city, the Obama Foundation pledged to create a $470 million reserve fund to protect taxpayers in case of financial shortfalls. However, as of recent reports, only $1 million has been deposited, representing just 0.21% of the pledged amount, and no further contributions have been made
Fox News
Fox News+1. This has raised concerns that taxpayers could be exposed to financial risk if the project encounters cost overruns or revenue shortfalls, especially given the rising construction costs from an initial estimate of $330 million to at least $850 million
Fox News
Fox News+1.
LEARN HOW TO READ it is all in those links.
 
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