Everyone understands that Socialism is not Communism, right?

[Into the Night]

That doesn't require pure Capitalism.

Actually, it does.
There is no government.
There is only raw resources and the initiative to use them.

Jackson forcibly taking land from the Cherokee is not "Socialism."

Yes it is. He stole the land to claim it for himself to sell it. The indians were placed on welfare (communism).

It is simple theft by force of government. Sort of like war but with fewer dead people.

There was no war until Jackson murdered their men and stole their land.

 

[Into the Night]

There is nothing absurd in pointing out the FACT you are trying to use a FANTASY structure you admit has NEVER existed as your point of comparison.

It is important to NOTE that what you are trying to use DOES NOT and HAS NOT EVER existed.


Try again.

You cannot make history just disappear, Kewpie.

 

[Into the Night]

So asking again...


Or is the "quasi-Capitalist nationthat does not tax ALSO a Terry fantasy.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Denial of history.

 

[Yakuda]

They can if those we elect chose to do so.

So there are constitutional limitations only when you want them. "general welfare" is not a reason for the fed govt to be involved in education

 

[Jarod]

So there are constitutional limitations only when you want them. "general welfare" is not a reason for the fed govt to be involved in education

Not according to the Supreme Court.

 

[Yakuda]

Not according to the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court also once said slavery was okie dokie. Just because its legal doesnt make it right. You obviously cant explain why the fed govt is involved with education.

 

[QP!]

....

Terry, still looking for a single example of below

 

[QP!]

So asking again...


Or is the "quasi-Capitalist nationthat does not tax ALSO a Terry fantasy.

.

 

[Sailor]

People are forced to pay into a Capitalistic society. That's what makes it end up in Fascism or Kleptocracy every time!!!

So ah, where do think monies come from in a socialist society?

 

[Jarod]

The Supreme Court also once said slavery was okie dokie. Just because its legal doesnt make it right. You obviously cant explain why the fed govt is involved with education.

Why? Because it is good for the General Welfare .

 

[Yakuda]

Why? Because it is good for the General Welfare .

So what? Education doesnt require the fed govt to be involved. Each state has its own education agency. You havent yet shown why the fed should be involved.

 

[Jarod]

So what? Education doesnt require the fed govt to be involved. Each state has its own education agency. You havent yet shown why the fed should be involved.

Why, to ensure uniform education standards.

 

[Yakuda]

Why, to ensure uniform education standards.

Why does the Fed govt have to determine that?

 

[Jarod]

Why does the Fed govt have to determine that?

They don’t have to, they chose to.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

The KKK is NOT a political party. That aside, when was the last time someone from the KKK ran for office?

The answer to that is Robert Byrd, Senator WV and a DEMOCRAT.

David duke as a republican , dofus

David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader and white supremacist, ran for multiple political offices as a Republican, including serving a term in the Louisiana House of Representatives (1989–1992). While he ran on the Republican ticket for the U.S. Senate in 1990, 1996, and 2016, and in the 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial election

 

[T. A. Gardner]

David duke as a republican , dofus

David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader and white supremacist, ran for multiple political offices as a Republican, including serving a term in the Louisiana House of Representatives (1989–1992). While he ran on the Republican ticket for the U.S. Senate in 1990, 1996, and 2016, and in the 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial election

So? Looks like he was pretty unsuccessful in getting elected to office.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

So? Looks like he was pretty unsuccessful in getting elected to office.

He was elected to the state senate

offices as a Republican, including serving a term in the Louisiana House of Representatives (1989–1992)

 

[T. A. Gardner]

He was elected to the state senate

offices as a Republican, including serving a term in the Louisiana House of Representatives (1989–1992)

Even massive losers like Duke get lucky sometimes. Byrd served in the US Senate for decades.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Nope.

Gasoline taxes, car tabs, and property taxes pay for roads. That means the users of the roads are paying for the roads. The roads themselves are built by capitalists. They are maintained by capitalists.

Right nearby is a solids materials plant. They sell all kinds of stone, concrete, and asphalt to build and maintain roads.
They also recycle old concrete into gravel and wood stumps and debris into Beauty bark (topsoil mulch).

They provide the trucks to move it as well, every one of which is also built by capitalists.

All the heavy equipment is build by capitalists. Every part they use to be maintained is built by capitalists. The projects themselves are private contractors (capitalists). Even the lane striping and turtles are done by capitalists. Capitalists also made the paint and the turtles. They made the cement used for the concrete. They made the aslphatum used to make road asphalt.

A city, county, or State may have bought it, but the capitalists provided the product.

Idk man, FDOT is pretty good and it's a state thing.
They get it done and it lasts.
They built 41 in 3 years. Rated for 83 mph.
Then you have all these counties doing things along the interstates with projects that never end because it's really a big grift.

 

[Matt Dillon]

No Capitalism is theft based on gov't lobbying and grift. Socialism is giving back to the people instead of giving it away to corporations and Oligarchs who lobbied for it.

Greedy people use graft and lobbying to steal the fruits of others.

Capitalists convince the gov't via lobbying to just give them the money so the poor cannot afford the lollipop unless they save and but from the rfich.

Oh! Muh Soshalism!
Holy fuck, you're a total retard. Have you ever worked a day in your life?
Lobbying is bribery and should be outlawed.