Under pressure FBI Director Kash Patel claims agency has ‘evidence’ that 2020 election was stolen from Trump: ‘Stay tuned this week'

[ZenMode]

Part b is wrong. Many states only require one "legal" voter vouch for a handful of others and they all get to vote.

Which states?

Then there is the whole discussion over ballot harvesting which was obvious in the LA mayors race.

No it wasn't.

Hard to prove when the laws are constructed to allow such actions.

They aren't. Ballot harvesting is illegal. So is voting twice. So is voting with another person's ballot. So is voting under someone else's name.

I can't actually think of a type of voter fraud that isn't illegal.

 

[Stone]

Tomorrow is different. POTUS only has a couple of years left. TIMING is everything. BTW,...Meduro has been very VERY helpful.

 

[Lionfish]

Which states?

My sister's state for one.
Vouching, as explained by the Minnesota Secretary of State’s office, is when “a registered voter from your precinct can go with you to the polling place to sign an oath confirming your address.” The explanation goes on to read, “A registered voter can vouch for up to eight voters. You cannot vouch for others if someone vouched for you.”
To add to the fun, records show three people at her residence have voten in a national election over the last two decades. Only two voters live in that home since our mother passed away in 2000.

No it wasn't.

They aren't. Ballot harvesting is illegal. So is voting twice. So is voting with another person's ballot. So is voting under someone else's name.

Then why the need for ballot drop boxes. The last two years of our mother's life she spent in a care facility. People came in and sat with residents and "helped" them fill out ballots.
Mail in ballots in CA are "legal" as long as the signature inside is dated before the date of election. The postmarked envelope means nothing as it is counted regardless of its legibility.
Get your hands on a envelope and ballot with Larry Elder for CA government. Try to fold it any way that so that it could not have been read through the provided envelope.

I can't actually think of a type of voter fraud that isn't illegal.

Voter fraud is nearly impossible to document especially when the laws are crafted to allow dubious practices.
In most states the Secretary of State is the most powerful office.

BTW, the law of probabilities would say it was all but impossible to keep a Pratt vs Bass ticket.

 

[ZenMode]

My sister's state for one.
Vouching, as explained by the Minnesota Secretary of State’s office, is when “a registered voter from your precinct can go with you to the polling place to sign an oath confirming your address.” The explanation goes on to read, “A registered voter can vouch for up to eight voters. You cannot vouch for others if someone vouched for you.”

Vouching for your address, not your identity. To register to vote, you need an ID with current address or ID with a document with your address.

The vouching is for people who move right before the election or probably for elderly who live in a home with an address that doesn't match their ID.

Then why the need for ballot drop boxes. The last two years of our mother's life she spent in a care facility. People came in and sat with residents and "helped" them fill out ballots.

Why not have drop boxes?

Mail in ballots in CA are "legal" as long as the signature inside is dated before the date of election. The postmarked envelope means nothing as it is counted regardless of its legibility.
Get your hands on a envelope and ballot with Larry Elder for CA government. Try to fold it any way that so that it could not have been read through the provided envelope.

You need better news sources.

You may return your voted ballot by

1. By drop box
   
   • Drop off your completed ballot in the return envelope at a secure official drop box in your county at any time between October 6 through the close of polls on November 3.
   • Drop your completed ballot in the return envelope off at a secure drop box, polling place, vote center, or county elections office by 8:00 p.m. on November 3. Voting locations will be available in all counties before Election Day. Voting locations offer voter registration, replacement ballots, accessible voting machines, and language assistance.

Vote By Mail :: California Secretary of State

Find information on how to vote by mail in California here.

www.sos.ca.gov

 

[Lionfish]

Vouching for your address, not your identity. To register to vote, you need an ID with current address or ID with a document with your address.

That vouching permits that individual to vote in that election. No ID required.

The vouching is for people who move right before the election or probably for elderly who live in a home with an address that doesn't match their ID.

Why not have drop boxes?
Because it is easy to add ballots in bulk.
You need better news sources.

My news sources are fine.

You may return your voted ballot by

1. By drop box
   
   • Drop off your completed ballot in the return envelope at a secure official drop box in your county at any time between October 6 through the close of polls on November 3.
   • Drop your completed ballot in the return envelope off at a secure drop box, polling place, vote center, or county elections office by 8:00 p.m. on November 3. Voting locations will be available in all counties before Election Day. Voting locations offer voter registration, replacement ballots, accessible voting machines, and language assistance.

Vote By Mail :: California Secretary of State

Find information on how to vote by mail in California here.

www.sos.ca.gov

You forgot CA counting mail in ballots long after election day.

Odd to me that in states where ballots are not promptly counted, a democrat always wins.

 

[ZenMode]

That vouching permits that individual to vote in that election. No ID required.

A lot of states don't require an ID to vote. The vouching only confirms that you are voting at the correct location based on your address.

My news sources are fine.

Clearly not.

You forgot CA counting mail in ballots long after election day.

Counting slowly because of their process doesn't mean there's fraud.

No, it doesn't matter what Tucker Carlson or random YouTubers tell you.

Odd to me that in states where ballots are not promptly counted, a democrat always wins.

What ballots aren't properly counted??

 

[evince]

Part b is wrong. Many states only require one "legal" voter vouch for a handful of others and they all get to vote.
Then there is the whole discussion over ballot harvesting which was obvious in the LA mayors race. Hard to prove when the laws are constructed to allow such actions.

Present your evidence clown


It’s the Republican Party that has been cheating in elections for half a century


The record is in our courts

The Republican Party CHEATS!

There is no like record in the courts for the Democratic Party

 

[evince]

There is no record of this cheating you claim you want to stop



It’s a fucking Republican grift

 

[evince]

“That should keep the black vote down”


Who said that?


Republican leadership under Reagan

 

[evince]

That is not evidence


Present your EVIDENCE!

Not one of you maga assholes have given factual documented evidence for your claims



Because you have NONE

 

[Stone]

Not one of you maga assholes have given factual documented evidence for your claims

Tomorrow night hag. Tomorrow night you all go up in flames. POOF! The Dem party is soooooooooooooo OVER.

 

[evince]

Tomorrow night hag. Tomorrow night you all go up in flames. POOF! The Dem party is soooooooooooooo OVER.

This one is creaming his jeans for fascism

 

[Walt]

Mail in ballots in CA are "legal" as long as the signature inside is dated before the date of election. The postmarked envelope means nothing as it is counted regardless of its legibility.

That is not true. Mail in ballots must be postmarked on or before the election, and received no more than 7 days after the election day.

Lionfish makes a lot of weird claims about his family, but not knowing his family, it is impossible to completely disprove. His weird claims about the law is easily disproved.

Vote By Mail :: California Secretary of State

Find information on how to vote by mail in California here.

www.sos.ca.gov

 

[Walt]

Tomorrow night hag. Tomorrow night you all go up in flames. POOF! The Dem party is soooooooooooooo OVER.

I don't. I think it will be more blather.

How many more decades will Stone blather about "tomorrow night" or "next week" he will finally have the proof?

 

[Lionfish]

That is not true. Mail in ballots must be postmarked on or before the election, and received no more than 7 days after the election day.

I did not say that is not true. What you missed was the FACT that if the postmark is deemed unreadable, it still can be counted as long as the signature inside has a date before the day of the election.




In California, if a mail-in ballot is postmarked by election day but is unreadable, it may still be counted as long as it is verified and meets other requirements set by election officials. Ballots must be received by the county elections office within a certain timeframe to be valid

California Elections Code section 3020 (2025)

All vote by mail ballots cast under this division shall be received by the elections official from whom they were obtained or…

california.public.law

Lionfish makes a lot of weird claims about his family, but not knowing his family, it is impossible to completely disprove. His weird claims about the law is easily disproved.

Vote By Mail :: California Secretary of State

Find information on how to vote by mail in California here.

www.sos.ca.gov

Wally, go wax your Yaris.

 

[Walt]

What you missed was the FACT that if the postmark is deemed unreadable, it still can be counted as long as the signature inside has a date before the day of the election.

So we go from the claim that the postmark never matters, to in the extremely rare possibility that the USPS smudged the postmark, the valid voter is not punished? What control over the postmark does the voter even have?

What is the purpose for this "cheating"? Why would Democratic voters mail in their ballots late, on the 0.01% chance the postmark would be smudged? They lose 99.99% of their votes for what reason?

Wally, go wax your Yaris.

The whole point of owning a 2019 Yaris is I do not have to wax it. I get the inside detailed, and they offer to detail the outside for a steep discount, but I am not interested. Who am I showing off for?

A week or two ago, a branch fell on my car. It put a nasty little dent in the roof. I did not care, because the car's operation was not effected.

I have a huge amount in my Roth. I have no problem paying for my kids college. I have a large amount saved for a rainy day. I have some very interesting investments that every now and then pay off big. Those are the important things. Owning a car to impress people I do not know has no importance to me.

 

[Walt]

May I add I have health insurance. I have good health insurance for me and my family. Every time there is a health problem, I am amazed how important it is to have health insurance(or some other comparable health coverage). I am always amazed with right wingers who expect society to take care of them when they have a health problem. It does not always work out.

@Lionfish

 

[Lionfish]

So we go from the claim that the postmark never matters, to in the extremely rare possibility that the USPS smudged the postmark, the valid voter is not punished? What control over the postmark does the voter even have?

What is the purpose for this "cheating"? Why would Democratic voters mail in their ballots late, on the 0.01% chance the postmark would be smudged? They lose 99.99% of their votes for what reason?

Wally, you missed the fact that the Post Office doesn't have to cause the smudge, it can be disfigured by anybody.

The whole point of owning a 2019 Yaris is I do not have to wax it. I get the inside detailed, and they offer to detail the outside for a steep discount, but I am not interested. Who am I showing off for?

Obviously, nobody. You have very low self-esteem.

A week or two ago, a branch fell on my car. It put a nasty little dent in the roof. I did not care, because the car's operation was not effected.

I fully understand that comment. A large dent might improve its looks.

I have a huge amount in my Roth.

Nobody gives a shit.

I have no problem paying for my kids college.

Nobody gives a shit.

I have a large amount saved for a rainy day.

Buy a real car.

I have some very interesting investments that every now and then pay off big.

We know. We saw your bet against the S&P

Those are the important things. Owning a car to impress people I do not know has no importance to me.

Again, low self-esteem.

 

[Lionfish]

May I add I have health insurance. I have good health insurance for me and my family. Every time there is a health problem, I am amazed how important it is to have health insurance(or some other comparable health coverage). I am always amazed with right wingers who expect society to take care of them when they have a health problem. It does not always work out.

@Lionfish

Wally, ever been in an ER just to see who's in the waiting room? Not a lot of MAGA hats in there.

 

[Walt]

Wally, ever been in an ER just to see who's in the waiting room? Not a lot of MAGA hats in there.

The best correlation with trump voters is worsening health outcomes. There is something going very wrong with the health of the trump supporting segment of the population. It has killed more Americans than AIDS.