This is the plan: How to save Democracy

Dear Mary, Geert Wilder is not highly reguarded by many religious scholors. He is a man full of hate for a religion that is adhered to by 1 in 5 people in the world. Thats right, for every 5 people in the world 1 of them is Muslim. President Bush himself has said we are NOT ar war with the Muslim religion. There are millions of Americans who are Muslim. There once was a leader of a small country in Europe who spoke like this man about a religion. He spoke about how this one religion was destroying his country and that he and the people of his country needed to do something to save their country and way of life. He did just that , he killed millions of Jews. His name was hitler.

Never ,never forget the lessons of history. Do you suggest we do the same to muslims that Hitler did? If not what do you suggest we do to "stop" these muslims who make up 1 in 5 people of the world? This wonderful country of ours was founded on the freedom of religion. I suggest you go back and read some of our history and get inspired with the idea that you cannot tell people what to believe. They only way to fight ideas is with ideas. You cannot force religion at the point of a gun. They only way you can do it with a gun is the way Hitler did it. It did not work very well for him now did it?

Hate will not make this country great again. Knowledge , intelligence, information, adult discussion and cool headed reason will. The ideals of Freedom of religion , speech and the pursuit of happiness will. Do not listen to the lies of this McCarthy of the netherlands. His only interest is his own power and all others be damned. Do your own research into the Muslim religion ( not on right wing sites but in encyclopedias) and you will see that it is closer to Christianity than it is different.

Please I beg of you again to question the things like this that people send you and that appeal to hate and devision of the people of this world. Jesus was not into hate and if you check into the Koran for yourself you will find that the Muslim people thought Jesus was a great man.




A post I made in early 2008


Pre maga


Yet maga does the same exact stupid thinking even today
 
Into the Night said:
Nope. The United States was never a democracy. It has a constitution.

A democracy has no constitution and no representatives.
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Has always been, Son. It's the way it's set up in that Constitution you claim to love so much but have never actually read.
 
Crepitus said:
Has always been, Son. It's the way it's set up in that Constitution you claim to love so much but have never actually read.
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A democracy has no constitution and no representatives, Sybil. You cannot blame your hatred of the Constitution and all State constitutions on me. Inversion fallacy.

The United States was never a democracy.
It is a federated republic.
 
evince said:
Dear Mary, Geert Wilder is not highly reguarded by many religious scholors. He is a man full of hate for a religion that is adhered to by 1 in 5 people in the world. Thats right, for every 5 people in the world 1 of them is Muslim. President Bush himself has said we are NOT ar war with the Muslim religion. There are millions of Americans who are Muslim. There once was a leader of a small country in Europe who spoke like this man about a religion. He spoke about how this one religion was destroying his country and that he and the people of his country needed to do something to save their country and way of life. He did just that , he killed millions of Jews. His name was hitler.
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Irrelevant appeal to popularity.
evince said:
Never ,never forget the lessons of history. Do you suggest we do the same to muslims that Hitler did? If not what do you suggest we do to "stop" these muslims who make up 1 in 5 people of the world? This wonderful country of ours was founded on the freedom of religion. I suggest you go back and read some of our history and get inspired with the idea that you cannot tell people what to believe. They only way to fight ideas is with ideas. You cannot force religion at the point of a gun. They only way you can do it with a gun is the way Hitler did it. It did not work very well for him now did it?
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Motte and Bailey fallacy.
evince said:
Hate will not make this country great again. Knowledge , intelligence, information, adult discussion and cool headed reason will. The ideals of Freedom of religion , speech and the pursuit of happiness will. Do not listen to the lies of this McCarthy of the netherlands. His only interest is his own power and all others be damned. Do your own research into the Muslim religion ( not on right wing sites but in encyclopedias) and you will see that it is closer to Christianity than it is different.
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Irrelevant appeal to emotion.
 
The United States blends aspects from both types in a democratic republic or a representative democracy.

“It is both a republic and a democracy because it is a representative democracy in which we elect people to make decisions for us,” Bennion said. “The danger of suggesting that it’s either or… is that republics are not necessarily democratic.”

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Elizabeth Bennion (Photo from Indiana University, South Bend)
Representatives in republics can be chosen from select groups – such as an oligarchy or aristocracy – or even be a dictatorship and not reflect the will of the majority. Countries such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela or Syria are all republics but not democratic, Bennion said.

“It’s good to keep those terms together, rather than separating them, because although most representative democracies are republics, not all are,” Bennion said. “And there are many nations that use that term – republic – that are not what we would think of as democracies.”

Bennion noted that, in the United States, the terms republic and democracy are used interchangeably, as they were during the time of the framers of the Constitution.
 
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