I think that was the general gist of her life message. How can you say otherwise?
A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.
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You "think", but ask how others can justify their own take?
cawacko
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The general gist of libertarianism is individual freedom. Pretty hard to be against that right?
But that principle can include specific positions or policies that people disagree with.
SmarterthanYou
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that women don't need men.
T. A. Gardner
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How many women go off totally on their own and live off the land throughout history?
Home Alone: Women on the Great Plains
For women on the Great Plains, hard work was supposed to be the antidote to insanity. But alone-ness, fear, and isolation lead to suicide.
www.homestead.org
If you are a libertarian You should love her. But I find that most libertarians pick and chose, they don't stay consistent with the ideology.
I think on issues of women's rights, she simply argued a woman should be free to do anything a man is allowed to do and should feel free, if she choses, to exercise that right without societal pressure to do differently.
Seems some here are very strongly opposed.
This is not history, this is in our current society where physical strength is less of a factor. HIstory has examples, Helen of Troy (fictional) and Joan of Arc, and Annie Oakley, and Emilia Earhart.How many women go off totally on their own and live off the land throughout history?
Did a fictional character, Joan of Arc, Annie Oakley, or Amelia Earhart "go off totally on their own and live off the land", Brad?
cawacko
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Libertarians believe in the principle of individual freedom. Do you believe in it? If you do, that should mean you agree with all the policies they support right? Because that’s the argument you’re making here.
I think you are correct. I do not really consider myself a full libertarian, because I do believe in things like child labor laws, and that taxes are necessary to have a Country, and some would say that my agreement to limitations on large corporations is not libertarian, but I think socially I am about as libertarian as it gets. The exceptions are that I believe in limits on gun ownership and I agree with some hate crimes laws.
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Do you consider yourself a libertarian? If so, can you explain your disagreement with her?
cawacko
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I believe that one can believe in the principle of individual freedom and not have to agree with all that Libertarians believe.
Just as I believe one can believe in equal rights for women, such as women not needing their husbands to get a loan, while not agreeing with all that Steinem stood for.
Nor do I believe she simply stood for equal rights. She stood for much more and she had every right to support what she did, but what she believed wasn't above push back.
Jerry Mathers
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how Is that assertion wrong?
Jerry Mathers
Was it me?
libertarianism has turned into abject banker worship stupidity.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I see a group of women, not a single woman, on her own.Home Alone: Women on the Great Plains
For women on the Great Plains, hard work was supposed to be the antidote to insanity. But alone-ness, fear, and isolation lead to suicide.
The snake-wrangling 84-year-old who lives on a remote barrier island
Once called the "wildest woman in America", this fearless knife-wielding naturalist has lived off the land for 53 years, fighting to preserve Cumberland Island for future travellers.
www.bbc.com
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No, I consider myself a Centrist and a Realist. I want what works. I don't believe you can change basic human nature, only work with it. That means what Steinem advocated was mostly, if not entirely, wrong.
Lying because you were proven wrong?
How childish.
promoting the idea that marriage and family are lesser pursuits and should be deprioritized
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Sure, there's one every now and then. They're far rarer than men however.The snake-wrangling 84-year-old who lives on a remote barrier island
Once called the "wildest woman in America", this fearless knife-wielding naturalist has lived off the land for 53 years, fighting to preserve Cumberland Island for future travellers.