Ilhan Omar’s Shady Castle Starts to Crumble

Anyone can die, so Omar and anyone else might not be sworn in, but other than that (or similar health problems) I do not see any legal way to keep her from being sworn in. Her election has been certified, so to remove her requires two thirds of the House to remove her. That means everyone, including her, must be sworn in first.

Even then, you are going to need some very clear evidence to convince so many Democrats to remove her. Right now you have nonsense, so reversing that is going to be harder.
Arrested for fraud. You didn't even see that coming, huh?
Her sister's already been arrested for it and there's speculation Ilhan was involved.
 
No, Wrong Way Wally! Wrong again.

  • Statutory Basis: Under Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provisions—specifically 8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(4)(C) for deportability and 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(C) for inadmissibility—the Secretary of State can make a factual determination that an alien's presence or activities have or would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences. [1, 2, 3]
  • No Trial Required: This is an executive and administrative determination rather than a criminal proceeding. It does not go through a criminal court trial or a jury. [1]
  • Immigration Court Role (Matter of Ruiz-Massieu): In removal proceedings, the Secretary of State’s foreign policy determination is treated as conclusive evidence of deportability. Immigration judges and the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) cannot look behind or review the Secretary's underlying foreign policy reasoning or judgment.

If she committed immigration fraud, she can be deported without judicial review.
From what I understand, it was her dad that did when she was 12.
 
From what I understand, it was her dad that did when she was 12.
Yes, from what Prof. Turley said, it does not matter who committed the fraud for her, she got her citizenship fraudulently.

Past Campaign Finance and Tax Findings: In 2019, Minnesota campaign finance officials ruled that Omar had to pay a $500 fine and repay $3,500 for improper out-of-state travel spending. The review also noted that she had previously filed joint tax returns with a man she was not legally married to at the time.

A fraudster, indeed.
 
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Yes, from what Prof. Turley said, it does not matter who committed the fraud for her, she got her citizenship fraudulently.

Past Campaign Finance and Tax Findings: In 2019, Minnesota campaign finance officials ruled that Omar had to pay a $500 fine and repay $3,500 for improper out-of-state travel spending. The review also noted that she had previously filed joint tax returns with a man she was not legally married to at the time.

A fraudster, indeed.
I was referring to the "Feeding Our Future" fraud. That's what her sister was in trouble for.
 
Naw you miss i am kind of mocking what you think is a point.

Yes she will be seated.

But if you want to say no one knows if any Congress person will show up to work any day as they could die in their sleep, and your point is merely that it is in with the world of plausiblity, people will rightly mock as what you are saying is so unlikely and not something that is a factor worth mentioning.

But die on the hill 'well it exists within the realm of what is plausible' so i stand by it.
I realize it is very likely she'll be seated, but until she is the bet is still on.

You are just trying to pretend that reality is a barrier I am making up.

So far we have a bet neither seems to have agreed to... One wants something about avatars and sigs another says only sigs... and there is no agreement as to terms. I am setting terms.

Bet ends when she is seated, if they agree to the deal.
 
It is a disgrace that these far left loons embrace these grifters. They even elect them to Congress.

Illegals who rape and murder our citizens are welcomed and protected in their sanctuary cities. They idolize a murderer who shot an insurance executive in the back, and a mother who strangled her three young children.

They vote for radical Islamic Muslims who support Hamas and terrorism and death to America and death to Israel.

They support open borders, no prisons and no police, no cash bail. They pardon more than 500 plus murderers in California.

These people are sick…to the bone.
 
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She has fraudulent U.S. citizenshop, you fucktardo!
:rofl2:
Yeah, you're pretty fuckin' dumb.
Even IF it is fraudulent they still have to go to court to take her citizenship away. They will have to prove in court that it is fraudulent. That means they will have to present their evidence to a jury in a civil trial in a federal court room.
 
Nazi Bitch is having another one of his Nazi temper tantrums. No, the Secretary of State does not have the right to take away citizenship from whoever he wants. That would be a Nazi system.

Statutory Basis: Under Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provisions—specifically 8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(4)(C) for deportability and 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(C) for inadmissibility—the Secretary of State can make a factual determination that an alien's presence or activities have or would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences. [1, 2, 3]
Omar is a US citizen, so would not be covered under foreign policy.

This is not a trick question. The Secretary of State has no power to deport US citizens... Or at least not in our current non-Nazi system. If The Nazi Bitch wants the Secretary of State to have that right, he needs to get busy overthrowing the government.

You do understand that a person who becomes a U.S. citizen fraudulently, is not a legal American citizen…no you probably do not understand this.
If someone commits fraud US citizenship, they legally have US citizenship until that fraud is proven in a denaturalization hearing.

Or at least that is how things work in non-Nazi systems.

If she committed immigration fraud, she can be deported without judicial review, WWW.
No, in non-Nazi systems one must prove someone guilty in court to punish someone. So if you believe someone was committed fraud to be found not guilty, you have to prove that in court, not gun them down in the streets.
 
Arrested for fraud. You didn't even see that coming, huh?
Her sister's already been arrested for it and there's speculation Ilhan was involved.
OK, just about everything you have said is incorrect. Omar's sister has not been arrested. In the subpoena for her testimony, the Justice Department said there was no evidence of her guilt in anything.

But if Omar gets arrested for fraud... They have to release her to go to Congress and get sworn in. Even if she is convicted, she will still be in Congress. The president and the courts have no power to remove her from Congress.

Now that the election has been certified, the only people who have the power to remove her from Congress is two thirds of the House. That would be nearly half the Democrats in the House.

So let's go through all the steps here to get what you say to come true:
1) You would have to find evidence against the sister.
2) You would have to arrest the sister.
3) You would have to find evidence against the Omar.
4) You would have to arrest Omar.
5) You would have to convict Omar.
6) You would have to let Omar go to get sworn in.
7) You would have to present that evidence against Omar to the House and convince two thirds of them that she is guilty.
8) Those two thirds would have to vote to expel.
 
Wrong, Wrong Way Wally, the Sec. of State can deport without judicial review.
If that becomes the new legal system, I say we deport all trump supporters next time we get a Democratic Secretary of State.

But somehow I doubt we will adopt Nazi Bitch's Nazi system.
 
OK, just about everything you have said is incorrect. Omar's sister has not been arrested. In the subpoena for her testimony, the Justice Department said there was no evidence of her guilt in anything.

But if Omar gets arrested for fraud... They have to release her to go to Congress and get sworn in. Even if she is convicted, she will still be in Congress. The president and the courts have no power to remove her from Congress.

Now that the election has been certified, the only people who have the power to remove her from Congress is two thirds of the House. That would be nearly half the Democrats in the House.

So let's go through all the steps here to get what you say to come true:
1) You would have to find evidence against the sister.
2) You would have to arrest the sister.
3) You would have to find evidence against the Omar.
4) You would have to arrest Omar.
5) You would have to convict Omar.
6) You would have to let Omar go to get sworn in.
7) You would have to present that evidence against Omar to the House and convince two thirds of them that she is guilty.
8) Those two thirds would have to vote to expel.
Wrong Way Walter strikes again! :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
No doubt she legit won her district because Obama seeded over 90K Somalians into Minnesota because fuck you, that's why.
He should hang for that. Seriously. :|
That was treason.
 
She has fraudulent U.S. citizenshop, you fucktardo!
:rofl2:
Yeah, you're pretty fuckin' dumb.
If you feel she has received her citizenship fraudulently, you need to collect evidence, and then present that evidence to a court for a denaturalization trial. It is a difficult process, and internet rumors are not considered evidence.

That still does not get her out of Congress, but it would get her citizenship revoked.

To get her out of Congress, you need to convince two thirds of the House to expel her. They need to be sworn in first, so there is no hope of doing that before she is sworn in.

There have been some very wild accusations made against Omar, which works against you getting her expelled. The Democrats are going to demand you prove all the accusations, and we all know that most (if not all) were lies.
 
If you feel she has received her citizenship fraudulently, you need to collect evidence, and then present that evidence to a court for a denaturalization trial. It is a difficult process, and internet rumors are not considered evidence.

That still does not get her out of Congress, but it would get her citizenship revoked.

To get her out of Congress, you need to convince two thirds of the House to expel her. They need to be sworn in first, so there is no hope of doing that before she is sworn in.

There have been some very wild accusations made against Omar, which works against you getting her expelled. The Democrats are going to demand you prove all the accusations, and we all know that most (if not all) were lies.
Did the judge approve a warrant to search her domicile? Why yes, yes he/she did, that means compelling evidence was presented.
Retard.
 
From what I understand, it was her dad that did when she was 12.
Omar refugee status was applied for when she was 8 years old. It would have been her father who legally did it.

It is past the 10 years statute of limitations on the citizenship, so if you are looking to prove that anything on the original application is a lie, you have to prove it was a lie sworn to by Omar. Once again, Omar was 8 years old, so did not swear to anything. That makes any questions about her age, or name meaningless.

It also opens up real questions about the internet nonsense about age and name. How would Omar's father know a decade before to change her age? If she included all her possible names, and listed Omar as her legal name, it is her legal name.
 
I was referring to the "Feeding Our Future" fraud. That's what her sister was in trouble for.
Even the Daily Wire, known for its lies, does not support your wild claim that Omar's sister has been arrested.

When subpoenaing someone, a prosecutor has to write down whether there is any evidence against them. This is to avoid self incrimination. The Justice Department claimed there was no evidence against Omar's sister, and that she was not even under investigation. She was served by that subpoena and voluntarily testified.

We do not know what happened during that testimony, but Omar's sister seems very happy, and the trump's justice department seems very sad.
 
Did the judge approve a warrant to search her domicile? Why yes, yes he/she did, that means compelling evidence was presented.
Retard.
No it does not stupid ass.

It means "SEEMINGLY" compelling evidence was presented. As Trumps DoJ has been CAUGHT OVER AND OVER ALREADY presenting FRAUDULENTLY or UNETHINCALLY to the court to try and get indictments or warrants only to abandon the case before it goes to court as they know it will fail as soon as defense challenges it, simply getting a warrant or indictment is near meaningless.
 
I realize it is very likely she'll be seated, but until she is the bet is still on.
We live in bizarre times. trump is taking us to dark places, and it is probably going to get a lot darker.

Basically the two ways to keep her from being seated is to kill her(or injure her so badly she cannot serve), or do something illegal(suspend the Constitution). She is young, and unlikely to die from natural causes, so most killing her would be illegal too.

Will trump have a bunch of his supporters illegally take over the Capitol Building... 6 years ago that would have sounded absurd, now we have to accept that is a maybe. trump might just have his supporters take over the Capitol Building(again), and murder Omar before she can be sworn in. It would send a powerful message to Congress that he is an absolute dictator above the law.
 
No doubt she legit won her district because Obama seeded over 90K Somalians into Minnesota because fuck you, that's why.
Your claim does not make sense from a simple time point of view. Somalian immigration was started by Reagan, and most of it was ended by Clinton. That was decades before Obama was President. Most of the immigrants admitted into the USA by Obama would not have had citizenship by the time of Omar running in 2018.

Omar applied for refugee status in 1991, when Bush the elder was President. I guess he is the one you should be blaming. Though the program does go back to Reagan, so you could blame him.

He should hang for that. Seriously. :|
That was treason.
Both Bush and Reagan are already dead, so you cannot hang them for what you claim is treason. Maybe we can disband the political party they were in, and hang whoever is the leader of that party... :bigthink:
 
There's a parallel here with the Zionist fascists in Israel desperately trying to remove Israeli Arabs ( Muslims tch , tch ) from the Israeli government even though they have won 19 seats. Who is it in the USA that supports fascism in Israel- and vice versa ? Yes.
Now the elephant in the room has become more visible- and more detested. Congratulations, USA.
 
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