So why don't you engage with my point? Why do you act like I never made it? Interesting. You could point out how it is flawed.
But I suspect that isn't your game, is it?
Christian symbolism in the movie 'The Matrix'
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So why don't you engage with my point? Why do you act like I never made it? Interesting. You could point out how it is flawed.
But I suspect that isn't your game, is it?
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True, but it took too long. That part of the book could've been done more simply.
The scene with the ape-like protohumans was only 15 minutes, from 3:50 to 19:00 in film time. Considering how important it was in the story of the monolith, it doesn't seem excessive to me. I was also impressed with how realistic and compelling the film made the ape-humans look and act. Didn't seem boring to me.
The initial three minutes of blank black screen are what I would have cut from the film.
Agreed you don't exhibit fear or jealousy. OTOH, he does. Murph's IQ is likely to be around 80.
You're plenty smart, and more importantly you are courteous and have good social etiquette
Jerry Mathers
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it was factually too long.
not enough happened to justify the duration.
cinematic masturbation.
this is not debatable.
It's my opinion.
The scene with the proto-humans worked in the context of the story, and honored the intent of the book.
The costumes and acting of the proto-humans was first rate; compare it to the monkey suits people had worn in movies up to that point in films.
It was realistic: I was convinced this is what a primitive society of ape-like proto-humans would look like one million years ago.
It conveyed an integral part of the overall story arc: a species of hominid primates on the verge of extinction who interact with an alien monolith that in some mysterious way triggers an inflection point in human evolution.
Jerry Mathers
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many opinions are wrong.
Five minutes would have been too short to adequately convey such an integral part of the overall story arc: a species of hominid primates on the verge of extinction who interact with an alien monolith that in some mysterious way triggers an inflection point in human evolution.
Jerry Mathers
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no its too long.
It would be a poor cinematic decision to cram such an integral part of the story into three or four minutes. It would lose it's dramatic edge.
It was in essence a mini-story about an inflection point in human evolution and it's relationship to the Monolith.
Jealousy, anger, and resentment tend to be what animates stalkers and lurkers on message board forums. I can't imagine any other credible reasons.
Jerry Mathers
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Agreed, as all rational, intelligent and educated people understand.
I don't expect morons and the mentally ill to understand how the Monolith allowed the hominids to become smart enough to use a tapir femur as a weapon and defeat the opposing tribe over the waterhole. It was a leap forward in human evolution. After the victory, the bone is tossed into the air and is replaced by a nuclear weapons satellite, a higher tech weapon.
The end of the movie, with the Star Child, is the next step in human evolution courtesy of the Monolith.
Agreed. They hate their lives so much that they are compelled to share their pain from the safety of their keyboards. Ignoring them is the best way to hurt them.
IRL, I suspect all are cowards and little morons who often get their lunch money stolen from them. Sad
That poster of the 50 foot woman is iconic, probably a good advertising gimmick.
^^ A great summary.
It was a mini-story that was pregnant with subtext and symbolism. Kubrick was a creative genius. He wasn't going to cram something so integral to the story into a 180 second clip.
Agreed on Kubrick's genius. He made intelligent films for intelligent people. Not popcorn flicks for idiots.
Into the Night
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Five minutes is plenty of time.
I don't think you know how long five minutes is in the movies.
Into the Night
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What evolution?
It's fiction, Sybil.