Why should we pay to house, feed and medicate terrorists? Or illegals...
DHS has deported over 2100 terrorists from US
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Why should we pay to house, feed and medicate terrorists? Or illegals...
As I noted, those that said tney’ve arrested fhe worst of the worst have done anything but, so who would believe them now
ICE arrested a record number of people without criminal records in summer enforcement surge, new data shows
The surge in arrests comes as the White House pushes ICE to hit a target of 2,000 per day.
www.cbsnews.com
Only 1 in 3 people arrested by ICE have a criminal conviction
An analysis of 1.6 million ICE arrests shows that while arrests are at a historic high, most of those detained have no criminal conviction.
www.colorado.edu
Yes
Is that a fact, Anchovies?
Do you know the difference between unsupported claims and statistics?
Then I love the fact that it starts with "suspected" terrorists before you pivot to claiming they were known members of terrorist organizations. You don't seem to understand that known terrorists would not just be suspected terrorists.
Another deposit bet
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-prove-dhs-lied-about-cato-report-ice
https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/
ICE arrested a record number of people without criminal records in summer enforcement surge, new data shows
The surge in arrests comes as the White House pushes ICE to hit a target of 2,000 per day.
https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118692/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20251118-SD001.pdf
Only 1 in 3 people arrested by ICE have a criminal conviction
An analysis of 1.6 million ICE arrests shows that while arrests are at a historic high, most of those detained have no criminal conviction.
https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions
Another unwitting utterance of a meaningless phrase, Anchovies.
Explain how the links you posted (probably without reading what they link to) prove your claim.
Zacarias Moussaoui is the "20th 9/11 Hijacker." He was arrested before being part of the implementation of the 9/11, but was a main force in the planning. He has also overstayed his original visa by decades at this point.
Earl here wants to take him out of prison, and deport him, so he can attack the USA again.
One of us is stupid... Who knows maybe both of us are stupid... But you are definitely stupid. Your fanaticism has made you stupid.
We don't get to say where they go after they leave the USA.
It is better to have criminals in prison than at large, that does mean housing, and feeding them. We could also execute them. Both require actual evidence.
Let's talk about the evidence. If 2015 terrorists did terrorist acts, can you name some of these terrorist acts? That is the first step towards proving them. It should be easy, terrorists are looking for maximum publicity for their terrorist acts. 9/11 is a good example, it was center stage for years. So find the other hundred 9/11's and then prove these terrorists were behind them.
Didn't some leftists say they want to abolish police and prisons?
Each of the links documented that Ice lied, the last thing Ice is doing is arresting the “worst of the worst,” so, the point, why would anyone believe Ice when they said they arrested whatever number of anything, like all associated with Trump, they lie
Yeah, probably .0000000001%, turn the channel every now or then
Kudos for admitting it.
Think so, Anchovies? Run the numbers.
What "channel" would that be, Anchovies?
Is that so, Anchovies?
They don’t prove the claim he thinks they prove.
Anchovies’ actual claim (post #2) is two pieces glued together:
- DHS says ICE arrested 2,150 known or suspected terrorists (KSTs) and deported 2,015 since Jan. 20, 2025.
- That same DHS said it only arrests the “worst of the worst,” but overall ICE stats show most arrestees are not U.S. criminal convicts — therefore the terrorist number is not to be believed.
The links in post #26 only speak to piece 2. They say nothing useful about piece 1.
What the linked items actually show
Those sources are about ICE arrests as a whole, not about the KST subset:
- Cato (Nov 2025): of people booked into ICE custody that fiscal year, 73% had no U.S. criminal conviction; only 5% had a violent conviction.
- CBS (Aug 2026): July 2026 was the first month of the term in which people with only civil immigration violations were more than half of ICE arrests; violent convictions ~4–6% of book-ins.
- CU Boulder / PNAS-style analysis: about 1 in 3 ICE arrests in the first 14 months of the second term had a U.S. criminal conviction.
- TRAC / Congress PDF: same category — overall ICE/ERO criminality mix.
That is a real debate about priority and rhetoric: “worst of the worst” as a description of the entire arrest pool is oversold if most people taken in have no U.S. conviction.
It is not evidence that the 2,150 KST figure is fake.
Why the leap fails
KSTs and “people with a U.S. criminal conviction” are different buckets.
- KST is a watchlist / intelligence designation (TSC / NCTC / DHS): known membership in a designated FTO, association, plotting, or “reasonable suspicion” under the watchlisting standard. Many of those people have no U.S. rap sheet. DHS said exactly that to CBS: people counted as “non-criminals” can still be terrorists, human-rights abusers, or gang members with no U.S. conviction.
- 2,150 KSTs is a tiny slice of total ICE activity (hundreds of thousands of arrests). You can have a majority non-convict arrest pool and still arrest 2,150 people who are on the terrorist watchlist. Those two facts do not cancel each other.
- DHS’s own release (Sept. 10, 2026) gives named examples in that count: alleged UFC plot ringleader; Brazilian commander of PCC and Comando Vermelho (both designated FTOs); Tren de Aragua members convicted in a Bronx double murder. Those are not “housewives and construction workers.” They also don’t have to be a majority of all ICE arrests for the KST count to be internally consistent.
So the links support: ICE is not running a program composed mostly of violent U.S. convicts.
They do not support: therefore ICE did not arrest ~2,150 KSTs.
That’s a category error — using the composition of the whole pile to deny a labeled subset.
What would actually test the KST claim
- Independent count from TSC / NCTC / ICE ERO of watchlist encounters and removals for that date range
- How many of the 2,150 are “known” vs “suspected,” and on what standard
- Comparison to prior administrations’ KST encounter/removal numbers for the same period length
- Whether “deported” means physically removed or includes orders not yet executed
None of Anchovies’ links do that. They change the subject from “are these 2,150 KSTs real?” to “is ICE’s overall caseload mostly violent criminals?” — a fair question, but not the one he said they answer.
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T. A. Gardner
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El Salvador is happy to toss them in CECOT. They take all comers.
No, that isn't true. But do try and source that drivel.
If a terrorist tries to get into America, I say we catch and toss him in prison then deport his ass to somewhere horrible that isn't where he came from.
And just as happy to release them for a small bribe.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Prove that too.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Please stop thinking. You do it badly and probably should seek a rehab program to help you.