Or worse, when people start dying from heat stroke.
Dozens drown, schools close, heat records set to be annihilated: Europe has a major heat problem and it’s only getting worse
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Or worse, when people start dying from heat stroke.
They always had a cool climate, that's why.
He was all jacked up for a glorious Trumpian victory in Iran, and when his war turned into a fiasco he seems to have exited stage left.
Hope he stays there.
cawacko
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Not a rhetorical question, but this is my real estate mind at work.Install more air conditioning, build new electricity generating plants to feed the increased demand, build rooftop gardens or paint roofs white. Some cities are already doing this. It's only going to get worse.
How scalable do you think that is for the millions of units that need it in terms of cost and dealing with the strong desire from some at least for architectural preservation?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Air conditioning is easy to install. You use split units. These are popular around the world. I'm considering one for my garage using a two-zone unit.Install more air conditioning, build new electricity generating plants to feed the increased demand, build rooftop gardens or paint roofs white. Some cities are already doing this. It's only going to get worse.
This is typical for a two zone. The fan unit goes on a pad or mounting outside. The two cooling units are wall mounted where convenient. You need drill just holes for the hook up lines to tie the two together and provide power--usually about a 30 amp 120 VAC or 240 VAC circuit to the unit with the fan. The inside units are powered from it. They are typically 30 SEER + in efficiency.
This is what one looks like installed.
Super simple. Anyone with a bit of handyman skill can install one in many cases, you just need the electrical circuit run. Costs are about $800 to $1500 with the install if you DIY.
Rooftop gardens are generally impractical. No available water, the roof has to be flat, it has to support the weight of the garden and persons on it, etc. Total PITA.
Insulating does 10 times or more what painting your roof white will. Just sealing anywhere air is leaking in will help immensely. Old homes in Europe are pretty drafty. Getting rid of that alone will massively improve energy efficiency. Shading windows and other surfaces with awnings helps too.
These can be DIY and are very helpful in keeping direct light out and cooling your home.
cawacko
Well-known member
How would that work for 200 year old buildings in Europe in terms of cost and feasibility (preserving architecture etc) for a large number of units? Would there be issues?Air conditioning is easy to install. You use split units. These are popular around the world. I'm considering one for my garage using a two-zone unit.
This is typical for a two zone. The fan unit goes on a pad or mounting outside. The two cooling units are wall mounted where convenient. You need drill just holes for the hook up lines to tie the two together and provide power--usually about a 30 amp 120 VAC or 240 VAC circuit to the unit with the fan. The inside units are powered from it. They are typically 30 SEER + in efficiency.
This is what one looks like installed.
Super simple. Anyone with a bit of handyman skill can install one in many cases, you just need the electrical circuit run. Costs are about $800 to $1500 with the install if you DIY.
Rooftop gardens are generally impractical. No available water, the roof has to be flat, it has to support the weight of the garden and persons on it, etc. Total PITA.
Insulating does 10 times or more what painting your roof white will. Just sealing anywhere air is leaking in will help immensely. Old homes in Europe are pretty drafty. Getting rid of that alone will massively improve energy efficiency. Shading windows and other surfaces with awnings helps too.
These can be DIY and are very helpful in keeping direct light out and cooling your home.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The ONLY issue would be getting power to the unit. Once you do that, everything else is simple.
You go almost anywhere else in the world, other than the US, and those split units are everywhere.
If you want to preserve architecture, you simply put them where they aren't an eyesore or visible. It's a matter of running the lines from the outside unit to the inside unit and that can be done where they are totally hidden. The usual problem is these are installed as cheaply as possible. That means the runs are short, the unit mounted in a convenient position without concern for the look, that's that. They are easily 10 times better than installing a "window shaker" type AC unit.
Europeans who come here for the Soccer matches are extolling our air conditioning. They wish they had it. That includes people from the British Isles.The ONLY issue would be getting power to the unit. Once you do that, everything else is simple.
You go almost anywhere else in the world, other than the US, and those split units are everywhere.
If you want to preserve architecture, you simply put them where they aren't an eyesore or visible. It's a matter of running the lines from the outside unit to the inside unit and that can be done where they are totally hidden. The usual problem is these are installed as cheaply as possible. That means the runs are short, the unit mounted in a convenient position without concern for the look, that's that. They are easily 10 times better than installing a "window shaker" type AC unit.
Don't have a clue. So if it's hard, don't do it?
Air conditioning is easy to install. You use split units. These are popular around the world. I'm considering one for my garage using a two-zone unit.
This is typical for a two zone. The fan unit goes on a pad or mounting outside. The two cooling units are wall mounted where convenient. You need drill just holes for the hook up lines to tie the two together and provide power--usually about a 30 amp 120 VAC or 240 VAC circuit to the unit with the fan. The inside units are powered from it. They are typically 30 SEER + in efficiency.
This is what one looks like installed.
Super simple. Anyone with a bit of handyman skill can install one in many cases, you just need the electrical circuit run. Costs are about $800 to $1500 with the install if you DIY.
Rooftop gardens are generally impractical. No available water, the roof has to be flat, it has to support the weight of the garden and persons on it, etc. Total PITA.
Insulating does 10 times or more what painting your roof white will. Just sealing anywhere air is leaking in will help immensely. Old homes in Europe are pretty drafty. Getting rid of that alone will massively improve energy efficiency. Shading windows and other surfaces with awnings helps too.
These can be DIY and are very helpful in keeping direct light out and cooling your home.
Good information, thanks.
Bummer for Europe. You reap what you sow!
Exactly. Most public buildings now (schools, courthouses, museums etc, etc) are ductless split heat pump systems or ducted heat pump systems. Dedicated outside air systems provide the ventilation part. Even in colder northern climates.The ONLY issue would be getting power to the unit. Once you do that, everything else is simple.
You go almost anywhere else in the world, other than the US, and those split units are everywhere.
If you want to preserve architecture, you simply put them where they aren't an eyesore or visible. It's a matter of running the lines from the outside unit to the inside unit and that can be done where they are totally hidden. The usual problem is these are installed as cheaply as possible. That means the runs are short, the unit mounted in a convenient position without concern for the look, that's that. They are easily 10 times better than installing a "window shaker" type AC unit.
Europe rejects air conditioning because it is not climate friendly.
Bullshit