Finally, intelligent gun regulations

Flash said:
No court ever ruled it was unconstitutional to require classes for a concealed weapon permit. There are many stricter regulations than buying insurance which are all constitutional.
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The Supreme Court will be ruling on this. We shall see. How does a law requiring classes for concealed carry reduce gun crimes?

Flash said:
I never said it would make our streets safer.
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Isn't that the premise of this topic? Why else would leftists encourage tough laws on law abiding gun owners. Do you think criminals will care about getting gun insurance? :palm:

Flash said:
That is why I clearly said "..not that I think insurance accomplishes anything."
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Then why have those laws? Why argue with me about it? :palm:
 
Flash said:
In other words, Republicans had a net loss of 39 seats in Congress in 2018.

Voters did not listen to the media in 2020 because they had four years to judge his character and performance
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Which was far less than what happened to Obama. Yet, you think it is about Trump and his character? Was it about Obama and his character? :palm:

Flash said:
.....and chose to vote him out by 7 million.
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When did we elect Presidents based on popular votes?

Republicans came, at most, within 43,000 votes from winning each of the three levers of power. :palm:

Flash said:
My point was simply that the president's party almost always loses seats in midterms
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That isn't a point. It's stating the OBVIOUS. MY point was that Trump lost by far less than Obama did. MY point is that Biden is poised to do WORSE than Obama. Meanwhile, you flail and are apparently at the brink of crying. :palm:

Flash said:
--trying to blame that on the media or voters being stupid ignores reality.
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The REALITY is that if not for the media, Biden wouldn't be President. I know you want to pretend that it's just because everyone hated Trump. But that's a dumb lie.

The funniest argument about the Biden miracle is the one that ignores how Biden wasn't liked much at all and without much of a campaign, got millions more votes than the much more popular Obama. In fact, we had a turnout that far exceeded any previous election. Yet Trump was the one filling venues with enthusiastic crowds and campaigned. Biden couldn't fill a school auditorium.

Mail in voting, which is subject to massive fraud, jurists overturning State elections laws, media lies about Trump and Covid and billionaires funding Democrats are what got Biden elected.
 
archives said:
It may be, but having to have a gun to do such isn't
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So a caveman didn't have the right to use the best weapon available at the time to defend himself?

Indians didn't have the right to guns to defend themselves? They should have just returned them back to the Army after they took them in battle from dead troops ...u are one goddamn fucking idiot


And Hitler agreed with u...Jews didn't have the right to guns to defend themself!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
No, it's not. And the 2nd amendment isn't about self defense anyways, tardboy.
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Despite tardboy's many faults, the right of self-defense is implicit in the Second Amendment.

Some people parse the Constitution like others do the Bible, but the truth is there's a bigger picture than cherry-picking quotes as noted in the Congress.gov link about it below:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/amendment-ii/interps/99
Implicit in the debate between Federalists and Anti-Federalists were two shared assumptions. First, that the proposed new Constitution gave the federal government almost total legal authority over the army and militia. Second, that the federal government should not have any authority at all to disarm the citizenry. They disagreed only about whether an armed populace could adequately deter federal oppression.

The Second Amendment conceded nothing to the Anti-Federalists’ desire to sharply curtail the military power of the federal government, which would have required substantial changes in the original Constitution. Yet the Amendment was easily accepted because of widespread agreement that the federal government should not have the power to infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms, any more than it should have the power to abridge the freedom of speech or prohibit the free exercise of religion.
 
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volsrock said:
So if bad guy has a gun or butcher knife, what do u do beg? throw a rock?
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Do you get attacked by a lot of bad guys regularly? In fact, just having a gun in your household greatly increases your chances of falling a victim of gun violence, it ain't those you don't know who are going to act you, but more so someone you know
 
volsrock said:
So a caveman didn't have the right to use the best weapon available at the time to defend himself?

Indians didn't have the right to guns to defend themselves? They should have just returned them back to the Army after they took them in battle from dead troops ...u are one goddamn fucking idiot


And Hitler agreed with u...Jews didn't have the right to guns to defend themself!
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Laughing at you using a caveman as an example, so many jokes here.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What gives you the right to deny a person a gun? By what power? Might makes Right? Tyranny of the Majority? "Fuck you, I got mine"?
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What "right," oh, the Government's Constitutional authority to legislate gun regulation for starters, and of course you have yours, you are scared stiff some kid wearing a hoodie is going to walk down your street some day
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Always a good Plan A. However, survivors always have a Plan B. :)
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I don’t have a gun, because as archives has said, a gun can also be used against you.

I personally know more people who have died by suicide or accidents than I know people who have died from home invasions or attacks on the street
 
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