Florida Stand Your Ground Law Causing Needless Deaths - part deux

[Truth Detector]

Oh there was concrete in the area, Martin was "armed" with a sidewalk.

He was armed with anger and his fists. He would be alive today if not for his anger and fists.

 

[Truth Detector]

You're still picohairsplitting for a white guy which you would never do for a black guy and you know it, if even only on some primirdial hindbrain level.

Moron thinks white guys are a threat to black teens.

 

[Carmine]

I understand the arguments for the "stand your ground" law. I'm a social democrat, but not a flower child.

There simply need to be draconian repercussions for obviously abusing it, and people will then think about whether or not it's necessary to apply it.

I believe in humane euthanasia, not ritualistic execution. Euthanize people found to have clearly abused the "stand your ground" law.

 

[Truth Detector]

Black folks are scary to many whites period, that's what stand your ground laws are all about in terms of practical usage. Pussies prevailed.

You keep spouting off with these lies. But what is scary is getting jumped and beaten by someone bigger than you. If only Martin had not jumped and beaten the Hispanic guy he would be alive today.

Pussies like you never prevail. You flail, you whine and you say really stupid retarded things.

 

[Truth Detector]

Well of course, blacker is always scarier.

You shouldn't be so scared; is that because you're a fat little cunt? :

 

[Truth Detector]

Your hero is a pussy that got away with murdering a black teenager, for absolutely nothing. That's just who you are. I can deal with it, you should learn to.

There you go again with the lies. No one said Zimmerman was a hero you pathological lying dumbfuck. He didn't murder anyone you pathological lying dumbfuck. How do you deal with you being such a lying fat little cunt man?

 

[Truth Detector]

You're too afraid to have a gun son.

Not in the least; but I am sure that in person you would be a frightened little cunt. You don't get out much do you dough boy?

 

[Truth Detector]

You never handle having your queries answered well. Is this going to be like your "no one HAS to do what a dispatcher advises" spinfest excuse for murder? This is america son, of course the law works differently for some.

Ground Rules
“Stand your ground” laws give white citizens the kind of impunity that’s usually reserved for police.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ichael-drejka-gets-police-level-impunity.html

Is There Racial Bias in “Stand Your Ground” Laws?
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/

Research Finds Justifiable Homicide Rulings More Likely to Benefit White Americans
https://lawstreetmedia.com/blogs/crime/racial-disparities-justifiable-homicide/

Column: When 'stand your ground' becomes a license to kill
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...glanton-stand-your-ground-20180725-story.html

 

[hvilleherb]

Who shot who? Who was unarmed? Who did the law tell to back off? Are all american men this puss that this is the only way they can envision dealing with a teenager? Time was this would not have been considered manly by anyone.

Who was the burglary suspect?

 

[hvilleherb]

Martin was unarmed. Zimmerman was instructed to stay in his SUV by dispatch. Z was bigger than Martin. Z was armed. Martin should be alive today.

Martin was a burglary suspect.

 

[Lesh]

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[USFREEDOM911]

You never handle having your queries answered well. Is this going to be like your "no one HAS to do what a dispatcher advises" spinfest excuse for murder? This is america son, of course the law works differently for some.

Ground Rules
“Stand your ground” laws give white citizens the kind of impunity that’s usually reserved for police.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ichael-drejka-gets-police-level-impunity.html

Is There Racial Bias in “Stand Your Ground” Laws?
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/is-there-racial-bias-in-stand-your-ground-laws/

Research Finds Justifiable Homicide Rulings More Likely to Benefit White Americans
https://lawstreetmedia.com/blogs/crime/racial-disparities-justifiable-homicide/

Column: When 'stand your ground' becomes a license to kill
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...glanton-stand-your-ground-20180725-story.html

Those are op-ed pieces and I asked for you to show where such was stated IN the law.

 

[Lesh]

Libs overlook the fact the black guy parked illegally in a handicap space.

And for that he should be shot??

 

[Lesh]

There you go again with the lies. No one said Zimmerman was a hero you pathological lying dumbfuck. He didn't murder anyone you pathological lying dumbfuck. How do you deal with you being such a lying fat little cunt man?

Tourette's much?

 

[Lesh]

Martin was a burglary suspect.

Is that what the Russian press said?

No he wasn't. Hw was a "walking where he didn't belong while black" suspect as far as Zimmerman was concrned

 

[USFREEDOM911]

And for that he should be shot??

Are you suggesting that was the reason he was shot??

 

[Nordberg]

To a lot of gun owners, what's the point of having a gun if you cannot shoot someone. Let's change the laws so you can. Florida did it.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

To a lot of gun owners, what's the point of having a gun if you cannot shoot someone. Let's change the laws so you can. Florida did it.

Would you care to show that it's the point of a lot of gun owners??

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Hello Trump Diva,

You are guilty of a straw man argument. I never said the things which swirl around in the fantasy in which you are lost.

Here are some facts:

A black guy pushed a white guy because the white guy was harassing his significant other.

The black guy made no more moves or threatening actions.

The black guy was actually moving away from the white guy.

The white guy pulls out a gun (exactly what the NRA wants) and needlessly shot the black guy to death.

There was no need to shoot.

All he did was stop the unarmed black guy from standing there.

You are supporting a law which allows white guys to provoke black guys and then needlessly shoot them dead if they make a move.

You support a law which creates orphans.

This is an anti-family law.

You failed to include that the car was parked illegally.

AND

You obviously feel that shoving someone to the ground (an assault), is not a threatening action.

So are you building your own strawman??

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Hello kudzu,

Apparently Trump Diva does not know the difference between Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground. Trump Diva seems to believe the shooter was protecting his home. That is not true.

The needless parking space killing episode began when the shooter approached somebody in the parking area of a convenience store. The shooter was upset because a black person parked in a handicap space without having the credentials to park there. It was pointless because there were actually empty parking spaces closer to the store entrance than the handicap space.

The victim came out of the store and found the shooter standing there harassing his mate, the mother of his child, who was in the driver seat of the car.

The victim pushed the shooter, who fell down, away from the car.

The shooter pulls out a concealed gun and points it at the victim, who took steps backward.

The shooter then fires a shot, killing the victim.

There appeared to be no threat to the shooter.

Under SYG, the shooter was not charged with any crime after killing someone in an altercation which he provoked.

A couple of things you keep ignoring.

1 - No one was shot over parking illegally; because if that's your mantra, then why didn't he just shoot the driver??

2 - Shoving someone to the ground, is considered an assault

3 - Since you say "apparently", it means you're really not sure.