Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

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rhym3pays

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https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07...gainst-state-gops-anti-gay-marriage-platform/

When it comes to policies that are designed to discriminate against gays -- whether its policies that allow gays to be discriminated against in housing, employment, etc -- the Republican party seems to be the main party pushing those policies.

So when a Republican in a state as red as Idaho came out in support of gay marriage -- it makes one wonder, is that stance a true conservative stance or is it anti-conservative? Dom Gelsomino is an openly gay, devout Christian who is running for the state legislature and he believes that while Democrats are more guilty of expanding government beyond its constitutional limits, the GOP has committed the same error when it comes to same-sex marriage. Another Idaho republican also supported gay marriage by saying "We as Republicans are and need to remain the party of inclusion, less intrusive government means government has no business in licensing families."

So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
 
The federal gov't should not be involved in the marriage biz.

:dunno:
 
rhym3pays said:
https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07...gainst-state-gops-anti-gay-marriage-platform/

When it comes to policies that are designed to discriminate against gays -- whether its policies that allow gays to be discriminated against in housing, employment, etc -- the Republican party seems to be the main party pushing those policies.

So when a Republican in a state as red as Idaho came out in support of gay marriage -- it makes one wonder, is that stance a true conservative stance or is it anti-conservative? Dom Gelsomino is an openly gay, devout Christian who is running for the state legislature and he believes that while Democrats are more guilty of expanding government beyond its constitutional limits, the GOP has committed the same error when it comes to same-sex marriage. Another Idaho republican also supported gay marriage by saying "We as Republicans are and need to remain the party of inclusion, less intrusive government means government has no business in licensing families."

So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
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According to the Constitution and what is WRITTEN in it, the federal government has no authority for the marriage business. That certain elements believe they do is because those elements have twisted themselves into a pretzel by claiming the Constitution says something it doesn't say.
 
Gay marriage isn't a conservative or liberal issue, but a matter of personal religious/moral convictions.
 
Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

BUT
They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
 
Grumpy said:
Ok I'll bite what are you trying to say?
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In most cases it has very little to do with moral conviction and more to do with just flat out bigotry/prejudice wrapped up in religious liberty -- especially since no one is pushing policies to discriminate against adulterers, fornicators -- -you know, those other sexual sins.
 
Getin the ring said:
Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

BUT
They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
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Should gays be fired for being gay?

If it goes against the religious liberty of his manager or employer?
 
Getin the ring said:
Of course you can, I am as "conservative" as they come.
But I believe a person can do whatever he wants with anyone he wants as long as they are both adults.
And they can call it marriage if they'd like.

BUT
They're not married, a man can not marry another man and a woman can not marry another woman. That's just silly.
They are free to call it that, but they're not "married"
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Sure they are. There are many marriages like that today - and they're definitely married.

As for the OP, conservatives used to be in favor or liberty, so I don't see why they would oppose gay marriage.
 
rhym3pays said:
https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07...gainst-state-gops-anti-gay-marriage-platform/

Interesting Question: Can You Be A Strong Conservative And Support Gay Marriage?

So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
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Talk is cheap, and a rightwinger can say anything they want on a message board.

I make almost no distinction between rightwing Christian theocrats, and those who willfully support them.

During my message board career I have run across copious amounts of rightwingers who professed to being kinda-sorta liberalish, to being social progressives. But to a man, they would cheer on the nomination of noted theocrat Sarah Palin, and they would be on the sidelines cheering for appalling rightwing theocrats Ted Cruz, George Dumbya, and they are the first ones leading the cheers for anti-reproductive choice, anti-gay marriage Republicans up for election, or nominated for life time jobs on the federal judiciary.
 
Bigdog said:
The federal gov't should not be involved in the marriage biz.

:dunno:
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I don't know about should not, but if the government is involved, then religion should not be. I think there is a societal need for a contract, if you will, between two parties and that there be consequences for ending that contract. It helps foster a nuclear family and that doesn't necessarily mean man/woman.

I personally do not believe in same sex marriage, however, I believe it is protected under our Constitution.
 
rhym3pays said:
https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/07...gainst-state-gops-anti-gay-marriage-platform/

When it comes to policies that are designed to discriminate against gays -- whether its policies that allow gays to be discriminated against in housing, employment, etc -- the Republican party seems to be the main party pushing those policies.

So when a Republican in a state as red as Idaho came out in support of gay marriage -- it makes one wonder, is that stance a true conservative stance or is it anti-conservative? Dom Gelsomino is an openly gay, devout Christian who is running for the state legislature and he believes that while Democrats are more guilty of expanding government beyond its constitutional limits, the GOP has committed the same error when it comes to same-sex marriage. Another Idaho republican also supported gay marriage by saying "We as Republicans are and need to remain the party of inclusion, less intrusive government means government has no business in licensing families."

So I guess the question remains -- can you be a strong conservative and support gay marriage?
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Yes, I have many conservative friends who support gay marriage. They are also non-religious.
 
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