NATO encroachent in Russian Black Sea waters is a war waiting to happen

When did we concede the Black Sea to Russia? Russia has only 14% of the Black Sea coastline, while NATO nations have 33%. The other 53% is belongs to countries that Russia has partially invaded. That makes the Black Sea more NATO's sea than Russia's.
lol the Black sea isn't anyones -there are restricted zones the Brits moved into.

why do this? they arent going to get Crimea back into Uk's hands. it's pure provocation
 
Ive been saying this is a war waiting to happen ever since NATO warships encroached on Crimean waters.

The next problem -mark my words- will be if/when Ukraine becomes part of NATO and Article 5 then applies to Ukraine

Russian stole their access to that sea idiot
 
Considering that it was already Russian when a drunken USSR leader, Khrushshev , a Ukrainian, handed it to Ukraine without a government quorum - therefore illegally under Russian law- and that almost 100% of Crimeans voted to return to Russia in a recent, legal, referendum then yes, you'd be right.
Should some mindless Western bunglers decide to proceed with taking Ukraine into NATO then Russia will invade it and annex the whole fucking country permanently. Every political dumbass with half an eye on world affairs knows that already.
no Russia is never going to move past Donbass -it would be suicide
Russia has no need for Ukraine - it DOES need border security, hence the attempt to federate Donbass away from Kyiv
 
I remember when the Republicans were not a puppet of the Russians. Reagan is rolling over in his grave.

Reagan trashed Gorbachev


Remember the “tear down this wall” bit


Gorbachev had already told Ronny he planned to take it down


It was an evil photo op which trashed the man trying to bring freedom to russia
 
Ive been saying this is a war waiting to happen ever since NATO warships encroached on Crimean waters.

The next problem -mark my words- will be if/when Ukraine becomes part of NATO and Article 5 then applies to Ukraine


Cheap assed Russian whore
 
no Russia is never going to move past Donbass -it would be suicide
Russia has no need for Ukraine - it DOES need border security, hence the attempt to federate Donbass away from Kyiv

Perhaps- but also suicide for anybody that tried to stop them.
Best that NATO retires itself back where it came from.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation



The Crimean Peninsula, north of the Black Sea in Eastern Europe, was annexed by the Russian Federation between February and March 2014 and since then has been administered as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol. The annexation from Ukraine followed a Russian military intervention in Crimea that took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation



The Crimean Peninsula, north of the Black Sea in Eastern Europe, was annexed by the Russian Federation between February and March 2014 and since then has been administered as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol. The annexation from Ukraine followed a Russian military intervention in Crimea that took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine.




On 22–23 February 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security service chiefs to discuss the extrication of the deposed Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. At the end of the meeting, Putin remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia".[4] On 23 February, pro-Russian demonstrations were held in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. On 27 February, masked Russian troops without insignia[7] took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea[42][43] and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Sergey Aksyonov government in Crimea, the conducting of the Crimean status referendum and the declaration of Crimea's independence on 16 March 2014.[44][45] Russia formally incorporated Crimea as two federal subjects of the Russian Federation on 18 March 2014.[46][47][note 2]
 
Perhaps- but also suicide for anybody that tried to stop them.
Best that NATO retires itself back where it came from.
hey you know how much i hate NATO expansion
-it's needless, it's bloats NATO, and makes NATO a political block more then a defense block

Ukraine was fucked up by the Euromaidan - by our hands ( Vicky Nuland and John McCain)
and thus the Crimea annexation etc.

No good comes from any of it
 
hey you know how much i hate NATO expansion
-it's needless, it's bloats NATO, and makes NATO a political block more then a defense block

Ukraine was fucked up by the Euromaidan - by our hands ( Vicky Nuland and John McCain)
and thus the Crimea annexation etc.

No good comes from any of it



Utter Russian talking points



It’s a fucking Putin ass boil
 
I wouldn't want to be the first to find out.
well there is a lot to it and the F-35's standoff abilities as well as the tracking (devil is in all the details)
But as much as I cant stand that fascist Erdogan, he made the correct move for Turkey's security by buying the S-400
 
lol the Black sea isn't anyones -there are restricted zones the Brits moved into.

why do this? they arent going to get Crimea back into Uk's hands. it's pure provocation

Yep, & does Britain or NATO really care about the Ukraine?? No, no more than they do Uyghurs, HK, Tibet or the Isle of Formosa-simply a bitch of convivence.. Same shit they been pulling in the middle east, central asia & N Africa........ & China continues to benefit, not the USA, not NATO or Europe....
 
Yep, & does Britain or NATO really care about the Ukraine?? No, no more than they do HK, Tibet or the Isle of Formosa-simply a bitch of convivence.. Same shit they been pulling in the middle east, central asia & N Africa........ & China continues to benefit, not the USA, not NATO or Europe....
ALL excellent points. especially HK -a former Brit colony that China violated the treaty on the turnover.

It ALL goes back to Russiaphobia; utterly misplaced and stupid overturning of the Nixon China card
for the phobes.
I am not positive we could ever decouple Russia and China military - they arent a unified command yet
but thy can defacto do so (Vostok 2018 games)

Instead we force Putin into Xi's sphere
 
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