I'm for a full investigation, Opie. You're the conspiracy theorist who is afraid to embrace the facts.
Oath Keepers CEO Stewart Rhodes
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I'm for a full investigation, Opie. You're the conspiracy theorist who is afraid to embrace the facts.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Facts stemming from an investigation.
Was Ashli Babbit the only pro-Trumper there and all the rest were Antifa/BLM?
Were any Antifa/BLM in the crowd?
Who organized the militias and what was the plan?
There are lots of questions remaining unanswered and you're the one against finding them.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Of course not.
There was at least one, the Sullivan idiot that recorded himself on video trying to provoke the rioters into ‘burning it’, and they didn’t. To my knowledge, Sullivan’s not in solitary confinement.
Stewart Rhodes is the Oath Keepers executive officer. I suppose they can ask him what the plan was. Oh wait, he’s at Walmart picking up groceries.
I can’t ‘not want it investigated’ when it’s being investigated. It’s too late for me to stop it from being investigated. I doubt, very seriously, Biden’s DOJ would pursue possible FBI involvement and I didn’t know about that until last week and the vote for a bipartisan commission was weeks ago.
For your reading pleasure ... post 71 ...
I WAS NOT THE ONE TO START THE SUBJECT ... BTW ... I was there at the time ... so there was NOTHING to learn in school
It is the only thing that has ever worked in the past. It does not work every time, but randomly arresting someone and hoping the evidence presents itself in the future is a lot less likely to work.
Conspiracy is always a tough case to make. It is tougher here, because there is no direct benefit, and possible not even direct orders. If he paid someone to commit crimes, that would be easier (but still tough). He suggested they commit crimes, which is a tough case.
Any judge would know this was a tough case, and give favorable bail. The defense attorney would know it is a weak case, and push for a speedy trial. Cases like this tend to fall apart on the first day.
Imagine how stupid a prosecutor would feel if a week after the case was dismissed he finally got the co-conspirators to testify against Rhodes.... Remember, there are no second bites at that apple.
There are complicating factors in any conspiracy trial of defendants not directly involved with the crime.
Darth Omar
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And a big one would be if he was working for the feds. That, very neatly, explains why they won’t/can’t charge him.
Still weak. Charge him, lock him up with the rest. If they can’t get anything else on him, oh well. No harm done. There simply isn’t any excuse for *the lead conspirator* to be running loose. What if he skips the country? Then what?
Double jeopardy means that if they cannot get a conviction, without any evidence, then he gets to walk free. It does not matter how much evidence they get six months from now, he is forever free. That is a huge amount of harm done.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Superseding indictment – A superseding indictment takes the place of the previous indictment in use.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment#Types
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An indictment is just a charge. They can charge him for jaywalking. Double jeopardy only applies to actual trials. You can’t try a person twice for the same offense.
Try again?
You are failing to respond to my point. Once a prosecutor gets an indictment in a case that cannot be supported, the defense is going to immediately start pushing for a speedy trial. Without the evidence, that speedy trial will be quite speedy indeed. Then there is no second bite at the apple.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
This is being made complicated but it’s really very simple.
Charge Rhodes with conspiracy to commit a federal crime. He didn’t need to be inside the Capitol to commit the crime of conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, when his underlings did the job. It doesn’t matter that it’s not going to get him on death row for that specific conviction. Bring the bigger charge later.
Let’s cut to the chase. Everyone knows the real target is Trump or at least someone close to him. Trump is never NOT the target. Charge Rhodes. Squeeze him or his underlings for more evidence to get to the top [there’s very likely is no ‘top’ but work with me here] like they do in a RICO investigation—start at the bottom and squeeze to the top.
The most plausible explanation for why they won’t do the *obvious* is because the top dog in the Oath Keepers is either a federal agent or an informant. They can’t charge him.
And if he is, Pelosi knows it by now. Oh, shit.
Charge Rhodes with conspiracy to commit a federal crime. He didn’t need to be inside the Capitol to commit the crime of conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, when his underlings did the job. It doesn’t matter that it’s not going to get him on death row for that specific conviction. Bring the bigger charge later.
Let’s cut to the chase. Everyone knows the real target is Trump or at least someone close to him. Trump is never NOT the target. Charge Rhodes. Squeeze him or his underlings for more evidence to get to the top [there’s very likely is no ‘top’ but work with me here] like they do in a RICO investigation—start at the bottom and squeeze to the top.
The most plausible explanation for why they won’t do the *obvious* is because the top dog in the Oath Keepers is either a federal agent or an informant. They can’t charge him.
And if he is, Pelosi knows it by now. Oh, shit.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Talk to Capitol trespassers in solitary confinement about a speedy trial and get back with me. What is it, six months and no trial date? Where is the ACLU?
For those who did not know, Omar's book just won an award. I have video of his commentary, debate, and award speech.
Son of the Revolution
Banned
fucking government is breaking the law doing that...
How many are asking for plea deals because they've been caught with the evidence they posted on Facebook?
It amazes me how fucking stupid most of those idiots have to be. Remember when all the racist RWers were making a big deal about this the felon below? That was one fucking guy. Trump ordered these idiots to record and post themselves and they....I still can't believe it....they did! ROFLMAO
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/20...-led-directly-to-jail-for-more-than-15-years/
A felon from the US state of Tennessee can henceforth be considered Crown Prince of Incriminating Selfies.
Malik First Born Allah Farrad, also known as Marvin Maurice Buckles, is a 41-year-old man from Johnson City, Tennessee.
In 2013, having racked up what the US Attorney’s office said were “numerous” felony convictions for drug, gun, and violent offenses, Farrad posted a series of photos taken in his bathroom as he held, posed with, and displayed firearms, including a .45-caliber semiautomatic handgun.
One photo in the series showed three handguns placed on top of the toilet seat in Farrad’s bathroom.
In another, apparently taken in a mirror, Farrad is seen aiming the reflection of the gun’s laser sight so that it reflected back onto his own forehead.
As a felon, it was illegal for him to possess guns.
On Thursday, Farrad was sentenced to 15.6 years – that’s 188 months – in federal prison for the crime of being a felon in possession of a firearm.
Son of the Revolution
Banned
All these convictions WILL be overturned...
Somehow I doubt it.
Agreed. Son of the Revolution is living in a fantasy world.
The alt right keeps saying one day they will have evidence that will clear them. Well it has been decades now, and still nothing.