Oath Keepers CEO Stewart Rhodes

Wow, a lot of anger coming from the alt right.

Rhodes was not in the Capitol Building, so was not a direct participant in whatever crimes happened there. He was probably an indirect participant, a co-conspirator. This case will be tough to make, and may not be able to be made. Rhodes may well get away with what he did.

THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION
 
They should hope to come up with something a little more beefy besides disruption of official proceeding, destruction of property and trespassing or it will get run over by other events. The democrats and Trump haters have bought into their own conspiracy theory [imagine lol!] thinking that the conspiracy goes beyond the Oath Keepers and you know how often conspiracy theories pan out.

In fact, democrats have to be something like 0-4 or 0-5 with their Bad Orange Man theories by now lol. Slow learners, I guess.

But that’s why I advocated against *further investigation* of it. It’s already being investigated; there’s likely no there, there, to it and democrats just wanted something else to politicize and use against the MAGA movement.

But after recent revelations I’ve changed my mind. It’s entirely plausible it wasn’t an intelligence failure but an intelligence operation.

And wouldn’t that be something.

Give them time. As has been pointed out to you several times, it's only been six months and major charges take time to investigate.

Of course you're against investigating the Insurrection. It can only go against Trump for starting it. The fact you are throwing in a conspiracy theory behind the Insurrection while, at the same time, against investigating it is pure Opie. LOL
 
THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION

There were definite crimes involved with entering the Capitol Building. Rhodes did not directly participate in these crimes, but probably indirectly participated.

It is a separate debate what the extent of the crimes were. Their stated purpose was to stop the process of government, which is definition of insurrection.
 
THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION
There were definite crimes involved with entering the Capitol Building. Rhodes did not directly participate in these crimes, but probably indirectly participated.

It is a separate debate what the extent of the crimes were. Their stated purpose was to stop the process of government, which is definition of insurrection.

Agreed. It was a planned operation from the WH sending out the announcement of the 1/6 rally to the organization of militias. SYT even danced around it last December from his Parler contacts.

The best part? Not a single JPP RWer went to the Insurrection. They all stayed home. ROFLMAO
 
OOPS!


Ammon Bundy Convicted in Trespassing Trial

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Anti-government activist and agitator Ammon Bundy has been found guilty of misdemeanor trespassing and misdemeanor resisting or obstructing officers.

Bundy was found guilty Thursday evening after a four-day jury trial and brief jury deliberations, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Bundy was sentenced to three days in jail. But with credit for time served, he will serve no additional jail time. Magistrate Judge David Manweiler also imposed 48 hours of community service and a $750 fine for Bundy.

A co-defendant, Aaron Von Schmidt, was found guilty of misdemeanor trespassing. He was sentenced to three days in jail as well, but also got credit for time served, and a $500 fine.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...01/ammon-bundy-convicted-in-trespassing-trial
 
OOPS!

Four Arrested in Sixteen-Defendant Oath Keeper Conspiracy Case for Activities Leading to U.S. Capitol Breach


Fourth Superseding Indictment Identifies Additional Conspirators, Alleges Obstruction and Assault on Law Enforcement
WASHINGTON — Three Florida men and one Alabama man were arrested for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

Joseph Hackett, 50, of Sarasota, Florida; Jason Dolan, 44, of Wellington, Florida; William Isaacs, 21, of Kissimmee, Florida; and Jonathan Walden, 46, of Birmingham, Alabama, are charged with federal offenses that include conspiracy, among other charges, related to the Jan. 6 Capitol breach. Dolan was arrested on Thursday, May 27, and Isaacs self-surrendered the same day. Hackett was arrested on Friday, May 28. Walden was arrested today, June 3. Hackett, Dolan, Isaacs and Walden are the latest four of 16 defendants to be arrested in this case.

As alleged in the indictment, the defendants agreed to plan and participate in an operation to interfere with the certification of the electoral college vote by coordinating in advance with others, using websites and social media to recruit participants, and traveling to Washington, D.C., with paramilitary gear and supplies including firearms, tactical vests with plates, helmets and radio equipment. As early as Jan. 3, Hackett, Dolan and Isaacs joined an invitation-only encrypted Signal group message titled, “OK FL DC OP Jan 6”.

Sometime before Jan. 5, Walden sent a message to co-defendant Joshua James expressing his interest in joining the quick reaction force team. His message to James reads, “I am interested in the QRF team in D.C. I am a former Firefighter, EMT-B and have a K-9 trained for security patrol (82 ib. German Shepherd named “Warrior”) I have a Jump Bag with Trauma supplies and have ALL the necessary 2A gear that the situation may require. PLEASE ADVISE. As soon as I hear from you I can hit the road and join up! Jonathan Walden,” followed by a phone number.

On the afternoon of Jan. 6, Walden and others rode in a pair of golf carts toward the Capitol, at times swerving around law enforcement vehicles. After they arrived at 2:33 p.m., Walden and others aggressively berated and taunted law enforcement officers in riot gear guarding the perimeter of the building. At 2:35 p.m., Hackett and Isaacs joined together with others known and unknown to form a column or “stack” of individuals wearing Oath Keepers clothing, patches, insignia and battle gear, each keeping at least one hand on the shoulder of the other in front of them. Dolan joined the stack at the top of the steps and the group collectively and forcibly entered the Capitol.

Hackett, Dolan, Isaacs and Walden are each charged with conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting, and entering and remaining on restricted grounds. Hackett, Dolan and Isaacs are also charged with destruction of government property and aiding and abetting. Isaacs is also charged with civil disorder and aiding and abetting as well as assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers.

The superseding indictment adds charges for previously arrested defendants, including Joshua James, charged with one count of obstruction of justice and assaulting and interfering with law enforcement in addition to conspiracy, civil disorder and other allegations. As alleged, James deleted evidence of offenses from his cell phone and assaulted Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) officers who blocked his path into the Capitol Rotunda.

Kelly Meggs and Kenneth Harrelson are additionally charged with one count of obstruction of justice for deleting evidence of these offenses from their cell phones.

Donovan Crowl, Jessica Watkins, Sandra Parker, Graydon Young and William Isaacs are jointly charged with one count of interfering with law enforcement during a civil disorder and aiding and abetting for helping to push a crowd into MPD riot police officers who had formed a line blocking the hallway that leads from the rotunda north towards the Senate chamber.

The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Department of Justice National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section. Valuable assistance was provided by the U.S. Attorney’s Offices for the Middle District of Florida, Southern District of Florida and Middle District of Alabama.

The case is being investigated by the FBI’s Washington Field Office, as well as the Metropolitan Police Department, with significant assistance provided by the FBI’s Tampa, Miami and Birmingham Field Offices.

In the first 120 days after Jan. 6, approximately 440 individuals were arrested on charges related to the Jan. 6 Capitol breach, including over 125 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement. The investigation remains ongoing.

Anyone with tips can call 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or visit tips.fbi.gov
 
OOPS!


Ammon Bundy Convicted in Trespassing Trial

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Anti-government activist and agitator Ammon Bundy has been found guilty of misdemeanor trespassing and misdemeanor resisting or obstructing officers.

Bundy was found guilty Thursday evening after a four-day jury trial and brief jury deliberations, the Idaho Statesman reported.

Bundy was sentenced to three days in jail. But with credit for time served, he will serve no additional jail time. Magistrate Judge David Manweiler also imposed 48 hours of community service and a $750 fine for Bundy.

A co-defendant, Aaron Von Schmidt, was found guilty of misdemeanor trespassing. He was sentenced to three days in jail as well, but also got credit for time served, and a $500 fine.

Read more: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...01/ammon-bundy-convicted-in-trespassing-trial

That won't look good on their resumes. I love this quote "The jury came back after deliberating for barely an hour."

This was just for his actions at the Lincoln Auditorium, Idaho. I expect harsher sentences will be passed out for the Capitol Insurrectionists. Notice there was no violence with Bundy's actions. The violent assholes are going to go to prison.

"A four-day trial began Monday in connection to an incident at the Idaho Capitol on Aug. 25, 2020, during a special session of the Idaho Legislature, when Bundy refused to leave the Lincoln Auditorium, was placed under arrest and went limp, forcing Idaho State Police troopers to wheel him out of the Statehouse in a chair."

 
OH MY!


Self-Identified Proud Boy Arrested for Violent Entry and Obstruction of Justice during Jan. 6 Capitol Breach

Defendant “Led the Storm,” and Bragged in Facebook Messages to Other Users


WASHINGTON — Today, agents with the FBI’s Newark Field Office arrested a New Jersey man and self-identified Proud Boy for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, which disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election.

Shawn Price, 26, of Rockaway, New Jersey, is charged with federal offenses that include violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds; obstruction of law enforcement during a civil disorder; and obstruction of justice. Price made his initial court appearance this afternoon in the District of New Jersey.

According to court documents, Price is a member of the Proud Boys, a group self-described as a “pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world; aka Western Chauvinists.” As alleged, Price held a leadership position in the northern New Jersey chapter and attended multiple events and rallies from November 2020 to January 2021. As depicted in photographs taken at the Capitol on Jan. 6, Price was on the lower west terrace helping to push other individuals forward into a line of law enforcement officers while the officers resisted and deployed a chemical irritant in an apparent attempt to disperse the crowd. In addition, on Jan. 6, Price sent Facebook messages to other users stating, “I led the storm!”, “ got really f***** up but me and 4 of my chapter brothers pushed that line and started it ourselves had to be done.”

The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Department of Justice National Security Division’s Counterterrorism Section. Valuable assistance was provided by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey.

The case is being investigated by the FBI’s Washington and Newark Field Offices, as well as the Metropolitan Police Department.

In the 150 days since Jan. 6, approximately 465 individuals have been arrested on charges related to the Jan. 6 Capitol breach, including over 130 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement. The investigation remains ongoing.

Anyone with tips can call 1-800-CALL-FBI (800-225-5324) or visit tips.fbi.gov.
 
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/...conspiracy-case-activities-leading-us-capitol
...As alleged in the indictment, the defendants agreed to plan and participate in an operation to interfere with the certification of the electoral college vote by coordinating in advance with others, using websites and social media to recruit participants, and traveling to Washington, D.C., with paramilitary gear and supplies including firearms, tactical vests with plates, helmets and radio equipment. As early as Jan. 3, Hackett, Dolan and Isaacs joined an invitation-only encrypted Signal group message titled, “OK FL DC OP Jan 6”....

The conspiracy charges are going to leave a permanent mark. Anyone tied to the conspiracy is going down.
 
They should hope to come up with something a little more beffy besides disruption of official proceeding, destruction of property and trespassing or it will get run over by other events. .

I can help you out there right now. It won’t be mere trespassing. It will be breaking and entering, and not just any breaking and entering. It will be attempted assault on the U.S Congress and an insurrectionist attempt to block the orderly transfer of Presidential power. In addition to destruction of federal property it will be assault and threatened assault on officers of the law. Should be beefy enough to satisfy ordinary patriotic Americans.

Whenever I see remarks like yours I wonder what you hapless ideologues would be saying if Jan. 6 had been a BLM event with one of its goals in mind.
 
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I can help you out there right now. It won’t be mere trespassing. It will be breaking and entering, and not just any breaking and entering. It will be attempted assault on the U.S Congress and an insurrectionist attempt to block the orderly transfer of Presidential power. In addition to destruction of federal property it will be assault and threatened assault on officers of the law. Should be beefy enough to satisfy ordinary patriotic Americans.

Whenever I see remarks like yours I wonder what you hapless ideologues would be saying if Jan. 6 had been a BLM event with one of its goals in mind.

Sounds about right. Again, once the plea deals and sentences start happening over the summer and fall, it'll be able to project where the Feds are going with this.
 
The normal method of getting a conspirator who did not actually participate in the crime is to round up the actual participants and then get them to testify against him.

Doesn’t work.

Indict him for simple conspiracy to commit a crime and add the bigger indictments later. Get him behind bars. Why don’t they do it?

Or are there ‘complicating factors’ at play with Rhodes?
 
Give them time. As has been pointed out to you several times, it's only been six months and major charges take time to investigate.

Of course you're against investigating the Insurrection. It can only go against Trump for starting it. The fact you are throwing in a conspiracy theory behind the Insurrection while, at the same time, against investigating it is pure Opie. LOL

Dude, THE conspiracy theory is that Trump planned this from the Oval Office lol. If you don’t know any better than to chase after that one I don’t know what to tell you.
 
Dude, THE conspiracy theory is that Trump planned this from the Oval Office lol. If you don’t know any better than to chase after that one I don’t know what to tell you.

That's only one conspiracy theory, Opie. How many have you posted over the past year? A few dozen? LOL
 
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