Wrong. Russia may have tried to inflame that situation, but Democrats DID collude with Ukrainians to dig up dirt on Trump. The records are unmistakably clear on that.
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Wrong. Russia may have tried to inflame that situation, but Democrats DID collude with Ukrainians to dig up dirt on Trump. The records are unmistakably clear on that.
So many incredibly stupid fallacies to de-tangle here.
1) The U.S. "intel" was DNC-funded partisan propaganda. That is a matter of record at this point.
2) Acknowledging that the dossier was fake Democrat-orchestrated trash is not "pretending." Pretending is more like continuing to repeat the lies from this debunked propaganda LONG AFTER it was debunked (what YOU are doing).
3) They also tried to help Bernie Sanders and other liberals, whomever could be used to divide the country. As your particularly acute case of TDS demonstrates, it worked.
4) Repeating idiotic conspiracy theories doesn't make them less untrue. It just makes you look more absurd, sad, and desperate.
5) Democrats burn our flag, ban our Pledge, aid our enemies, attack our allies, insult our Anthem, smear our Founders, shred our Constitution, steal our elections, release terrorists and criminals into our back yards, and facilitate migrant invasions at every turn. The America-hating party of treason is just going to get laughed at for hilarious self-unawareness any time it attempts to suddenly pretend not to despise this country.
Try again, dishonest lunatic.
"Now?" When has he ever done anything other?
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So many incredibly stupid fallacies to de-tangle here.
1) The U.S. "intel" was DNC-funded partisan propaganda. That is a matter of record at this point.
2) Acknowledging that the dossier was fake Democrat-orchestrated trash is not "pretending." Pretending is more like continuing to repeat the lies from this debunked propaganda LONG AFTER it was debunked (what YOU are doing).
3) They also tried to help Bernie Sanders and other liberals, whomever could be used to divide the country. As your particularly acute case of TDS demonstrates, it worked.
4) Repeating idiotic conspiracy theories doesn't make them less untrue. It just makes you look more absurd, sad, and desperate.
5) Democrats burn our flag, ban our Pledge, aid our enemies, attack our allies, insult our Anthem, smear our Founders, shred our Constitution, steal our elections, release terrorists and criminals into our back yards, and facilitate migrant invasions at every turn. The America-hating party of treason is just going to get laughed at for hilarious self-unawareness any time it attempts to suddenly pretend not to despise this country.
Try again, dishonest lunatic.
Beautiful, niether Rush nor Sean could have put it any better
None of this contradicts the findings that the election wasn't actually influenced. Attempts are not success. Re-read the title of the thread and try comprehending the difference between the point being argued and the irrelevant point you are responding to.
Again, spinning some zero-impact Facebook posts as "extensive activity" still doesn't establish that the National Academy of the Sciences is wrong and that any actual influence occurred. Try again.
Why does the National Academy of the Sciences agree with Republicans in comprehending the difference between TRYING and SUCCEEDING at influencing elections?
Russian trolls have the same reach to American voters as the American news media? Um...no. That's obviously not true on its face.
We wouldn't be talking about collusion for three years straight if that were true. The dossier was fake DNC-funded misinformation. If anyone in our lying, corrupt news media had admitted that from the beginning, there never would have even been a special prosecutor. Our partisan DNC news media MADE this Russian misinformation about collusion mainstream when it would never have otherwise reached anyone.
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Yeah, just look at his signature.
McCain and Romney were utterly unprincipled, spineless, and treacherous to conservatives. Using them to refute the notion that conservatives will vote for whomever is conservative...is blatantly stupid.
This is you demonstrating your ignorance of his populist appeal. Obama elected Trump...by epitomizing the establishment elitist snobbery, condescension, lawlessness, and hatred of the American people that Washington, D.C. has become so infamous for. ANY of the primary candidates who would fearlessly confront such Constitution-shredding tyrants and traitors would have united conservatives.
As usual, stupid fallacies and shitty logic on every point.
As if on cue to demonstrate the point I just got done making about why voters were drawn to Trump.
StoneByStone
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Some of those weren't hoaxes, but that's besides the point. These weren't debunked conspiracy theories. Take the Jussie Smollett hoax, for example. This wasn't a conspiracy theory, it was a lie by one person. And when the lie was exposed, everyone accepted it. The Left didn't say that the Deep State is framing Smollett or anything silly like that. They just accept that Smollett lied.
The Right can't accept when Trump is caught in a lie. Rather, they believe debunked conspiracy theories with no evidence, like that Ukraine hacked the 2016 election or that Biden got a Ukrainian investigator fired to help his son.
The National Academy of the Sciences says there was zero impact. Trump won by more than zero. Comprehending the irrelevance and stupidity of your biased scandal-mongering yet? And where were you when Obama was caught rigging incredibly close elections?
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Repeating your debunked conspiracy theories won't make them true.
D.C. schools are some of the most over-funded in the country, yet they perform at the very bottom. Democrats may be incapable of comprehending solutions other than throwing truckloads of other people's cash at broken systems, but those of us who operate on facts and logic see a gaping hole in your fallacy here.
Try again.
According to debunked conspiracy theories, yes. According to facts and evidence, no.
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And screaming all your Trump Derangement Syndrome temper tantrums in all caps makes you look LESS intelligent (if that's possible), not more.
Having the same reach is not the issue--it is their influence. Those watching CNN and MSNBC are already liberal and having their views reinforced and the same applies to those watching Fox and listening to Rush Limbaugh. They don't want news--they want to hear stuff they agree with and negative things said about the other side.
We've been talking about it because the media carries stories about what is occurring--they didn't make up collusion. They didn't appoint the special prosecutor. You think the Russians wanted people to think it was colluding?
What was fake in the dossier and what did it have to do with anything?
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Did you even read that post? I said it's not enough just to be on the Right. So yeah, I agree, Conservatives won't vote for someone just because they're conservative.
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Dear Unhinged Midol Nut-job,
Everyone is in agreement that Putin tried to help all those liberals and Trump, if you can stop hyperventilating and fainting with spoon-fed idiot outrage long enough to comprehend that. Trying is not succeeding. And DEMOCRATS pushed Putin's Russian disinformation (the dossier), not Republicans. Try to keep up.
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One of the few things I DIDN'T reject about Benedict McCain was his positions on fighting foreign threats, but yes, if you are against ever starting wars for any reason, you would have to dislike both him, Hillary AND Obama to avoid being a hypocrite. Democrats have gotten us into and botched nearly every single war we've been in for the last hundred years, for the record. We may disagree on certain issues, but I can certainly respect your independent approach and commitment to defending the American people against the lawless tyrannical elitist snobs of the establishment.
Yes, unless you think the National Academy of the Sciences is a secret Russian agent as well.
This is known as "delusional wishful thinking."
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Translating from Liberal to English, what is meant by "corrected his error" is "posted a left-wing outlet making a meaningless distinction."
No one ever disputed that Russia TRIED to help liberals and Trump.
Again, you are responding to a point no one has made, Learn how to read, genius.
Says the person who can't comprehend what what plain-English arguments people are making.
Republican witnesses were not allowed, and only Democrat-approved witnesses who had been coached for weeks in advance were allowed to speak. That's the DEFINITION of cherry-picked you fucking moron.
Of course. Things that reveal your "evidence" to be complete horse shit tend to be seen as relevant to those being lied about.
Who argued that? Their perjury and total lack of actual evidence ABSOLUTELY matters. It's how we establish that this "investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" concept is completely baseless garbage (if common sense didn't already tell you that). Pointing out that they're biased, disgruntled hacks with no evidence in no way implies that they don't matter.
Try again there, Socrates.
Of course. Fighting back against fraudulent "coup" attempts (as Democrats themselves described what they were doing) is the only sensible option.
Pointing out that this latest show trial produced only hand-picked, coached "witnesses" who witnessed nothing...about something that isn't even a crime in the first place...is irrelevant? Um...sure. Whatever you gotta tell yourself.
Say the only people denying the accused the right to face his accuser, the right to see the (total absence of) "evidence" against him (as usual, hence the term 'witch hunt'), the right to a speedy trial, etc., while failing to comprehend that a "witness's" feelings about what someone might have said to someone else is NOT eyewitness evidence at all and would be laughed out of any courtroom.
Say the people who have produced literally zero evidence and still to this day repeat the debunked lie that Trump colluded with Russia.
Again we see that whatever Democrats accuse someone of is what only Democrats are actually doing.
Uh huh.
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Yeah, three whole times.
"Arguing for Democrats only 99% of the time makes me independent."
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