The Deplorable Blue Collars, truckers, farmers, smelly Walmarters & bitter clingers

Of course your vote matters.

Again, I don't know what you lose by saying that you fucked up and will do better next time.

You seem rather dumb, if you think our vote all matter in an Electoral college, it simply doesn't.

You fcked up by thinking anything different.
 
This idea that Hillary would be so much better is probably bull.

And what do you base that on? She's been a public servant since 2000, when she ran for Senate. She was SoS during H1N1.

The idea that Hillary would be just as bad, or no better than Trump is something you tell yourself so you don't feel guilty not voting for her.

I think that's bull and weak sauce.
 
You seem to think the system is fair, it's not because of the Electoral college, the votes go to states, thereby New York doesn't matter.

This idea that Hillary would be so much better is probably bull.

Hillary may have pulled an Amnesty of Illegals.

Which is worse than even Illegals, not only does it help them get more welfare, it encourages more to come in.

The only reason you call them "illegals" is to dehumanize them so you can get comfortable with treating them inhumanely.

That's a moral failing on your part.
 
No, you voted 3P because you thought it absolved you of any guilt.

But it doesn't.

You're to blame just as much as the people who voted for Trump, or who didn't vote.

If you and millions of people like you had voted for Clinton, we wouldn't be in this mess today.

You have yet to explain how my one vote would have changed the election outcome in my state. Even if that one vote did switch the state to Hillary she would still have lost the election even with those additional 38 electoral votes.

Voting for Hillary would not have absolved me of any guilt, either.
 
Wrong,wrong, wrong. Policies I support would have lower government spending which has increased at a faster rate than revenue. We wouldn't have such a huge debt.

What spending do you want to cut, Flash? Because even if you cut all discretionary spending, you're still running about a $500B deficit today.
 
The only reason you call them "illegals" is to dehumanize them so you can get comfortable with treating them inhumanely.

That's a moral failing on your part.

He probably calls people convicted of murder "criminals" just to dehumanize them.
 
The only reason you call them "illegals" is to dehumanize them so you can get comfortable with treating them inhumanely.

That's a moral failing on your part.

They are immigrants who came here the ILLEGAL way.

No, your moral failing is that because of Multiculturalism your Jewish people will one day be extinct.
 
Wrong,wrong, wrong. Policies I support would have lower government spending which has increased at a faster rate than revenue. We wouldn't have such a huge debt.

Well, since the tax cut you supported, revenue hasn't increased at all.

In fact, after inflation, 2019 saw less revenue than 2017. 2018 was, of course, $63B lower than 2017.

The tax cut reduced revenues by 1.3% since its inception on 1/2/18.

But tax cuts have always reduced revenue...we saw it happen in Kansas this decade, and we saw it happen nationally last decade. We know what tax cuts do. We just lived through them.
 
So then there was no need for the tax cut for business, then, since their effective rate was already 11-12%.

So all that tax cut did was kill jobs and expand the deficit.

First you say our corporate tax rate is still higher than countries where corporations flee and now you say it is too low.
 
Ah, you see I'd attack the Capitalists who hire the Illegals.

Once a few are behind bars.

The rest will follow suit & be good for awhile.

Without income, most illegals will self deport.

USA policies have made life for many of these refugees intolerable and dangerous in their own countries so maybe that needs to be addressed first. No one wants to come here and leave their home country for the honor of scrubbing the shit out of some strange American's toilet for kicks and giggles.
 
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I figured he was a Democrat plant.

Still might be true, actually.

A former Democrat, with past references to touting of healthcare in the UK which is NATIONAL HEALTHCARE,

Who makes Republicans look as foolish, oafish, and obnoxious as possible.

Who has Stimulus bills bigger than Obama's.

Who deports less illegals than Obama.

So...I hear a lot of excuses but no self-accountability.
 
My deficit concern isn't about the deficit, but rather people like you who use the deficit -created by the policies you support- as some sort of political football when you've never, ever been serious about it, and refuse to accept even the most basic of facts and analysis of it.

Deficit?
You don't care about it?

So, much for the Jews are good with money stereotype.
 
Well, since the tax cut you supported, revenue hasn't increased at all.

In fact, after inflation, 2019 saw less revenue than 2017. 2018 was, of course, $63B lower than 2017.

The tax cut reduced revenues by 1.3% since its inception on 1/2/18.

But tax cuts have always reduced revenue...we saw it happen in Kansas this decade, and we saw it happen nationally last decade. We know what tax cuts do. We just lived through them.

Good. I don't want government getting more revenue. Now, if we could just cut the spending.

Instead, we care going to stimulate China's economy since that is where most of the stimulus money will go.
 
You seem rather dumb, if you think our vote all matter in an Electoral college, it simply doesn't.

You fcked up by thinking anything different.

If everyone votes it does matter.

The choice you made in 2016 is now being heaped on you today, and you don't seem able or willing to confront that.

Self-accountability is what we're seeking here, and you haven't held yourself to any standard or account.

Instead, you've made excuses.

Millions of people thought just like you did, and we are now living with the consequences of that thoughtlessness. Millions of people thought just like you did, but still made the choice to vote for Clinton in 2016. But you didn't. Because you never believed you'd ever personally face consequences.

So again, thanks for nothing.
 
If everyone votes it does matter.

The choice you made in 2016 is now being heaped on you today, and you don't seem able or willing to confront that.

Self-accountability is what we're seeking here, and you haven't held yourself to any standard or account.

Instead, you've made excuses.

Millions of people thought just like you did, and we are now living with the consequences of that thoughtlessness.

So again, thanks for nothing.

Haha.
Thanks for the laugh.

Because, nope a vote ONLY in swing states really truly matter.
 
You have yet to explain how my one vote would have changed the election outcome in my state. Even if that one vote did switch the state to Hillary she would still have lost the election even with those additional 38 electoral votes..

Well, I guess we'll never know because of the shitty choice you and millions like you made in 2016.

Own that shit. You made the choice, and now you don't want to own the consequences? What a baby.
 
What spending do you want to cut, Flash? Because even if you cut all discretionary spending, you're still running about a $500B deficit today.

Everything. Medicare reports (so it is probably low) $60 billion in fraud and waste. Go to competitive bidding which has reduced costs by 40% in trial programs.

I worked in government long enough to know agencies are largely motivated by increasing their budget and mission rather than serving the public.
 
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