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Trump uses his own staff as assassination bait
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You're a douche .
Any ethical human being would warn their staff of a credible terrorist threat, rather than using them as assassination bait.
Maybe he's being perfectly sarcastic.
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Goodness me.
It was about a threat to AF1. Trump and obviously his military took it seriously. They shipped him back in a FedEx box. They told the people on the plane nothing. If the plane were taken down, Trump would have a lot to answer for. The families of those killed would have questions without good answers.
Is that so?
Would "any ethical human being warn their staff of a credible terrorist threat, rather than using them as assassination bait"?
No. The framing equates a standard (if high-stakes) presidential security practice with deliberate use of people as “assassination bait,” which oversimplifies competing ethical duties and the operational realities of protecting the President.
Core competing obligations
In U.S. practice, the Secret Service’s statutory primary mission is the physical protection of the President (and continuity of government).
When a credible, time-sensitive threat exists against the specific aircraft the President is believed to be on, the protective detail’s first responsibility is to remove the principal from that threat vector while preserving the effectiveness of any deception.
Full, real-time disclosure to every passenger on the decoy aircraft would risk:
- Compromising the ruse if anyone’s behavior, communications, or post-flight statements leaked the switch.
- Creating panic or operational friction aboard the aircraft.
- Reducing the protective value of the decoy itself.
The ethical calculation is therefore not “warn everyone or you are using them as bait,” but “how do you maximize the principal’s survival probability without gratuitously increasing others’ risk beyond what the threat environment already imposes?”
What the reported operation actually involved
According to contemporaneous reporting, the decision was driven by Secret Service and military assessment of an Iranian threat. The President boarded the older Air Force One publicly, then transferred via catering truck to a C-32A with a small group of aides. The larger aircraft continued with its normal complement (staff, support, press).
President Trump has publicly stated he followed the protective detail’s direction. Critics note that passengers were left unaware of the elevated specific risk, but this is how successful protective deceptions work.
Ethical perspectives that reject the absolutism
- Duty hierarchy / role ethics: Officials charged with protecting the head of state have a specialized, non-negotiable primary duty. Treating every passenger’s information rights as equal to that duty would systematically degrade protection in high-threat environments.
- Informed risk vs. operational security: Personnel who travel with the President already operate under standing elevated risk. Adding a classified, time-critical threat detail to the information set is not the same as “using them as bait”; it is compartmentalization. Historical presidential movements (decoy aircraft, secret itineraries, blacked-out flights) have routinely withheld full details from most of the traveling party for the same reason.
- Trade-off analysis: Alternatives (evacuate the entire plane, cancel the departure, announce the threat publicly, or fly the President on the high-visibility aircraft) carry their own costs—some of which could increase total risk or signal vulnerability. An ethical decision-maker weighs expected harm across options, not just the single dimension of “did everyone get a personal warning.”
The rhetorical framing itself
Phrases such as “any ethical human being” and “assassination bait” collapse a complex protective trade-off into a moral binary.Reasonable people can (and do) disagree about whether the specific trade-off chosen was optimal, whether more staff should have been moved, or whether post-event transparency should have been greater. Those are legitimate questions of judgment and oversight.
They do not require accepting the premise that the only ethical course was immediate, universal disclosure that would have nullified the protective measure.
In short: an ethical decision-maker prioritizes the President’s survival under credible threat while minimizing unnecessary additional risk to others.
Withholding the operational details of a successful deception from the decoy aircraft’s passengers is consistent with that priority, even if it leaves a residual moral discomfort that critics highlight.
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I doubt there is any "goodness" associated with you.
True.
Who told you that?
Because that's part of the protocol. I strongly suspect that a leftist onboard AF One would have immediately made the "scoop" public and alerting the Iranians to the target substitution.
I'm sure lefties would pretend that he did. I believe that you (and most leftists) want to 86 47, along with the Iranians.
The protocol that was followed is a good answer. Being in the same space as the POTUS carries certain risks, as Corey Comperatore's family knows all too well. Did they blame the POTUS?
Yakuda
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who says that didnt happen? please dont tell me to read the shit you post
All the reporting in multiple independent established media sources say Trump made his escape hidden in a food catering container and didn't warn his staff.
The fact that Air Force One took off as scheduled is all the evidence you need to know the passengers and crew were unaware there was a credible threat.
Yakuda
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And nothing happened so stop your fucking whining. Oh thats right you cant you're a whiny leftist bitch
So you tacitly agree that if Air Force One took off as scheduled it means Trump didn't bother to inform the passengers there was a credible threat to the aircraft.
Yakuda
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Who was killed?
T. A. Gardner
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Do you think that say, an admiral or general has to inform their entire command down to the lowest ranking troops of some "credible threat?"
The Secret Service (with military involvement) made/recommended the decision.
President Trump has publicly stated that the transfer was not his initiative. On August 11–12, 2026, he told reporters:
- “It’s only up to Secret Service. I just follow what they like to do. So I go by Secret Service and the military. They wanted me to go in a different flight, a different plane… So I do it.”
- “I just have to do what they say.”
- He added that he did not inquire deeply into the details (“I didn’t really ask too much about it”) because he receives frequent threats.
- A U.S. official and other sources briefed on the matter described the Secret Service as deeming a credible, imminent Iranian threat (including possible shoulder-fired or surface-to-air missile risk to the aircraft) sufficient to trigger the operation.
- Former Secret Service agents and reporting attribute the ruse—boarding the older Air Force One publicly, then transferring via catering truck to the C-32A—to the protective detail and supporting military entities acting on intelligence.