Trump's new 'Patriot Party' signals the death knell of the GOP, permanent Dem rule

cawacko said:
Let me ask you this. If I were a Democrat I might be looking around feeling pretty good about myself, especially with this internal battle going on inside the Republican Party. But we know the Democrats have their own issues. Obviously there's unity right now behind removing Trump. But as we saw in '16, there was a portion of the party that was willing to sit out an election because they felt the party wasn't addressing their concerns. Once the 'newness' of Biden wears off I'm willing to guess we'll see those fault lines reappear.

Do you think this will all be smoothed over going forward of will the Bernie vs. establishment battles continue?
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No I don't. They may have vastly different political views on the issue but it is the same issue that is driving the political radicalization of both the mostly white collar Bernie Bros and the Blue Collar Trumpsters. That being the gross inequality in this nation that Trump tapped into via demagoguery. In that respect those to political factions actually have far more in common than they would care to believe.

What were witnessing now goes back to the Credit Default Swap Crises of 2008 where the curtains opened and the American public caught a glimpse of just how incredibly rigged out system is against those who work for a living...blue collar or white collar. It is this rigged system and the gross inequality that it has created that is almost purely to blame for the radicalization in US politics. Whether it be from the left or from the right. This time around (under Trump) it was most clearly communicated by the white working class supporters of Trump and fucking A right they have the right to be pissed. Supporting a demagogue like Trump may have been misplaced but at least he was addressing the issue.

My prediction is that unless this issue is addressed and corrected the political radicalization will get worst and not better. Though I don't really question Biden's intentions I seriously doubt he has the ability to significantly make a difference on the issue. I hope like hell I'm wrong but...I doubt it.
 
Diesel said:
I agree that the modern American Republican party has little to nothing to do with classical conservatism.
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I'm not agreeing there's no correlation. We all know political parties exist to win elections/power. That's what they do first and foremost. So no party is every going to fully align with all principles of conservatism or liberalism. Now what is debatable is how close is each party to what they espouse.

What's interesting is when we look at the rhetoric of both the Republicans and the Democrats towards the Republicans, along with reality. Republican politicians of course espouse conservative principles on the campaign trail and often act different once in office. But listen to Democrats describe Republicans. How often do we hear Democrats say Republicans want to eliminate Medicare? Republicans want to eliminate Social Security? Republicans want to eliminate the minimum wage? Republicans want to shred the social safety net? Republicans don't want to fund education? We could go on. If all that were true that would be quite in line with classical conservatism.

So many moving parts involved.
 
Diesel said:
I don't think that most Republicans were ever conservatives. They were just corrupt power brokers looking to make a buck. When the brainless base of the party became mesmerized by their fat, mentally vacant jesus, the suits went along with it. I hesitate to make predictions about the Republican party because I really don't see how it can recover, although I could be wrong.
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In this country I can't predict what will happen to the GOP either, especially since 80% of them REMAIN Trump loyalists - that's an astounding percentage

and that morally bankrupt portion of the electorate is here to stay, Trump's approval rating with these idiots and zealots continues to increase, even since Jan 6th

Republicans that fell under Trump's spell inhabit mega-red states around the country, states the constitution granted FAR too much power to by giving almost uninhabited regions 2 senators and at least 3 reps. many of these states should be totally ignored on the national scene, they're lost forever

how the GOP can be at all relevant in national elections going forward is a real mystery to me, especially since in 2016 it put forward the worst presidential candidate, bar none, in American history
 
Diesel said:
Nope, we're a functioning democratic republic. You could go fuck yourself, though, moron.
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We are a representative Republic, or we were. We now have a president who was installed by criminals. There are Civics courses available on line.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not agreeing there's no correlation. We all know political parties exist to win elections/power. That's what they do first and foremost. So no party is every going to fully align with all principles of conservatism or liberalism. Now what is debatable is how close is each party to what they espouse.

What's interesting is when we look at the rhetoric of both the Republicans and the Democrats towards the Republicans, along with reality. Republican politicians of course espouse conservative principles on the campaign trail and often act different once in office. But listen to Democrats describe Republicans. How often do we hear Democrats say Republicans want to eliminate Medicare? Republicans want to eliminate Social Security? Republicans want to eliminate the minimum wage? Republicans want to shred the social safety net? Republicans don't want to fund education? We could go on. If all that were true that would be quite in line with classical conservatism.

So many moving parts involved.
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Interesting perspective.
 
reagansghost said:
In this country I can't predict what will happen to the GOP either, especially since 80% of them REMAIN Trump loyalists - that's an astounding percentage

and that morally bankrupt portion of the electorate is here to stay, Trump's approval rating with these idiots and zealots continues to increase, even since Jan 6th

Republicans that fell under Trump's spell inhabit mega-red states around the country, states the constitution granted FAR too much power to by giving almost uninhabited regions 2 senators and at least 3 reps. many of these states should be totally ignored on the national scene, they're lost forever

how the GOP can be at all relevant in national elections going forward is a real mystery to me, especially since in 2016 it put forward the worst presidential candidate, bar none, in American history
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The destiny of the Trumpists is going to be a rocky road. They need to be addressed somehow, but lacking rationality, logic, a respect for truth, and any ability to think critically, I'm not sure how to handle them.
 
coldjoint said:
We are a representative Republic, or we were. We now have a president who was installed by criminals. There are Civics courses available on line.
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You're such a stupid fuck. Sell your OAN bullshit to someone who cares.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not agreeing there's no correlation. We all know political parties exist to win elections/power. That's what they do first and foremost. So no party is every going to fully align with all principles of conservatism or liberalism. Now what is debatable is how close is each party to what they espouse.

What's interesting is when we look at the rhetoric of both the Republicans and the Democrats towards the Republicans, along with reality. Republican politicians of course espouse conservative principles on the campaign trail and often act different once in office. But listen to Democrats describe Republicans. How often do we hear Democrats say Republicans want to eliminate Medicare? Republicans want to eliminate Social Security? Republicans want to eliminate the minimum wage? Republicans want to shred the social safety net? Republicans don't want to fund education? We could go on. If all that were true that would be quite in line with classical conservatism.

So many moving parts involved.
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That's why I don't watch cable news.
 
HERE THEY ARE: The Five Most Obvious Acts of Fraud in the 2020 Election that You Are No Longer Allowed to Discuss
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FIVE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACTS OF FRAUD IN THE 2020 ELECTION:


1.) The Georgia Late Night Hidden Suitcase Heist:
2.) The Drop and Roll — Shutting down five states and then dumping hundreds of thousands of late-night votes for Joe Biden
3.) Blocking GOP Poll Watchers in the counting rooms in swing states
4.) Votes deleted or switched from President Trump to Joe Biden:
5.) USPS postal service drivers speak out after they were told to transfer up to 288,000 completed ballots across state lines after the election.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/five-obvious-acts-fraud-2020-election/
 
When did you become a slave to an obese sociopath?
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When you say things like that and then repeat the same lies almost word for word it only shows you got nothing. The fraud was obvious, The fraud was massive.
 
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