Do the humanities need a rebrand?

[Walt]

So are you currently working as an Ancient Greek or Modern French translator?
I have a friend that speaks 5 languages fluently and pretty sure is a translator for all all of them.

Somewhere you people have decided the reason that you learn a foreign language is to be a translator. It is best to hire someone who can do a job in a foreign language(and culture), and not to hire someone who can do a job, and then hire a translator to translate for him.

 

[Hume]

Is that so?
I think you should know some history and know that Fascism died with Mussolini in the 1940s, you stupid twat!

fuck you

 

[Hume]

Oh, you retard.
When they say "Survey", they really mean "You're going to know this stuff or else."

No, it means a very light and general review.

 

[Cypress]

He wouldn't call the American colonies the United States. Americans prior to the founding of the US are more commonly called Colonials.

A comprehensive introductory survey course of German history does not begin arbitrarily in 1871, anymore than a survey course of American history starts on July 4, 1776.

 

[Hume]

OP only brought "Humanities" up because I enlightened her that it's required for a Liberal Arts degree.
Yep.

you are goddam stupid

 

[Cypress]

Another lie. Nowhere did I mention a class. You have some serious emotional issues regarding inferiority.

There's history since the beginning of time.

Already covered.

A comprehensive introductory survey course of German history does not begin arbitrarily in 1871, anymore than a survey course of American history starts on July 4, 1776.

You specifically responded to me complaining that there's is not much German history because it doesn't start until 1871.

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[German history]. Not much there. Germany became a country in 1871.

 

[Moosakofsky]

A comprehensive introductory survey course of German history does not begin arbitrarily in 1871, anymore than a survey course of American history starts on July 4, 1776.

You specifically responded to me complaining that there's is not much German history because it doesn't start until 1871.

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A tacit admission I never mentioned a class.

You sure don't know much about Germany despite claiming to have such an affinity for it.

I have no affinity for Germany. But I do prefer Franken, alpine towns,
and Leipzig to Houston, New Orleans ,Midland, Nigeria , Angola or Los Angeles.

No accredited American university would give you a German degree because you can understand conversational German.

Of course not.

University students who earn German degrees are expected to have knowledge of the entire German tradition, including German literature, history, culture, cinema.

Good for them. Why would I want a degree in German?

LOL, the Holy Roman Empire was not different tribes speaking different languages. You're thinking of the Goths of the age of Roman antiquity.

Wow. You actually think the Germanic people were only the Goths.

The principalities of the HRE were all Germanic speaking people loosely united under the Holy Roman Emperor ever since the Middle Ages, and ultimately united under the leadership of the Germanic state of Prussia in 1871.

Thank you for telling me what I already know.

You obviously didn't even know what the HRE until this thread.

Ninth grade history class

Your barely adequate skills in conversational German is not even remotely close to being equivalent to a German degree from an accredited American university.

I know that. But I know more about living in Germany than any professional student like you were does,

The university requires you to become knowledgeable not only with the language of Germany, but its history, literature, its politics, its cinema, culture, and philosophy.

I wonder if they teach nuances like what day it’s appropriate to throw your garbage into a garbage bin.

You're supposed to graduate as accomplished student of Germany, not just someone who can order beer and sausages at an Oktoberfest in Hamburg

How does that relate to me? I never majored in German.

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You stated a class on German history wouldn't start until 1871 and therefore there is "not much history there "

Post where I stated that .

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Does an American history class only start on July 4, 1776?

Changes the subject. An admission of defeat.

Why do you have to pretend to be an expert on everything?
E.g., I’ll acknowledge you know more about Russia than I do. You don’t see me googling Russian topics just to pretend I know more about Russia than you do.
You have a serious inferiority complex.

 

[Cypress]

A tacit admission I never mentioned a class!

Drunk this early? You responded directly to my post which was specifically referencing classwork in German history.

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The UC Davis German degree requires coursework in... German history...

[German history] Not much there. Germany became a country in 1871.

Why do you have to pretend to be an expert on everything?

You don't have to be an 'expert' to know the Holy Roman Empire was a confederation of largely German people. That is covered in high school and college introductory European history classes.

I must seem like an expert to you because your knowledge is very limited. Also, I keep my mouth shut on topics I do not know, so you'll rarely see me say something foolish and ignorant.

 

[Moosakofsky]

you'll rarely see me say something foolish and ignorant.

I must seem like an expert to you

LOL, not at all. You obviously pretend to be one. Murph is dead right. You can hardly post anything without referring to Google, AI, or Wikipedia.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

A comprehensive introductory survey course of German history does not begin arbitrarily in 1871, anymore than a survey course of American history starts on July 4, 1776.

Doesn't change what I've already stated. Germany as a nation didn't exist before 1871 and the United States didn't exist before 1776. Americans and Germans did but they as a norm didn't use those words to describe themselves.

 

[Cypress]

Doesn't change what I've already stated. Germany as a nation didn't exist before 1871 and the United States didn't exist before 1776. Americans and Germans did but they as a norm didn't use those words to describe themselves.

The discussion started out as to what German history is taught in a class.

Professional educators know you cannot teach a survey course of German history with bringing up the history of the German people during their confederation as the Holy Roman Empire.

UC Davis, German History 144A & 144B​

"History of Germany, 1450 to 1789 and History of Germany since 1789"​

 

[Matt Dillon]

The discussion started out as to what German history is taught in a class.

Professional educators know you cannot teach a survey course of German history with bringing up the history of the German people during their confederation as the Holy Roman Empire.

UC Davis, German History 144A & 144B​

"History of Germany, 1450 to 1789 and History of Germany since 1789"​

I think you meant "without", but OK.

 

[Moosakofsky]

The discussion started out as to what German history is taught in a class.

No. The whole German thing started out w/ me stating that I learned to speak German without any formal classroom education and that was just to make my point that liberal arts education can be self taught.

 

[Hume]

No. The whole German thing started out w/ me stating that I learned to speak German without any formal classroom education and that was just to make my point that liberal arts education can be self taught.

And I replied that the liberal arts are not supposed to teach you to speak a foreign language. Amazing how ignorant you are.

 

[Into the Night]

Steve Ballmer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I am not trying to be cruel here, but there really is no value in Night's posts.

Bulverism fallacy.

 

[Moosakofsky]

And I replied that the liberal arts are not supposed to teach you to speak a foreign language. Amazing how ignorant you are.

So what category would you put foreign language education at the university level.

 

[Into the Night]

He clearly is insane. Not joking.

Mantra 1d. Lame.

 

[Hume]

So what category would you put foreign language education at the university level.

It is weird you think the liberal arts are just to teach conversational language.

 

[Into the Night]

Somewhere you people have decided the reason that you learn a foreign language is to be a translator.

That is certainly one of the jobs it can be.

It can also help you with international sales and business, international procurement, and teach you where many words in English come from and why.

It is best to hire someone who can do a job in a foreign language(and culture), and not to hire someone who can do a job, and then hire a translator to translate for him.

Agreed, but such places already have translators hired anyway.

 

[Into the Night]

A comprehensive introductory survey course of German history does not begin arbitrarily in 1871, anymore than a survey course of American history starts on July 4, 1776.

The United States is not a continent, Cyborg.