Good Mom with a gun.

The Derp said:
So if someone gets an abortion, that affects you how?

If someone doesn't get a vaccine, then that affects people who can't be vaccinated.

Your moral compass isn't broken; it's non-existent.
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my moral compass is fine. your's is the one off center.......tilted way to the left that is.
 
The Derp said:
Yes I can because mandatory vaccinations provide herd immunity. The person who can't get a vaccine doesn't have a choice when it comes to catching whatever disease you have that you refused to get vaccinated against, be it HPV or measles or smallpox or polio or etc.
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so we're nothing but cattle to you? this is why you have no moral compass. you're only for individual freedoms that you like, not for all of them.
 
Granule said:
No, the truth is, you're a gun grabbing tool. The government is your god, and criminal behavior actually gives you a hard on. No wonder you perverts leave the perpetrators out of these arguments.
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You're damn right I'm coming for your guns because you're too irresponsible and careless to have them. Government's got nothing to do with it, and in the 240+ year history of this country, not once have guns in the hands of citizens ever been a bulwark against tyranny. Quite the opposite, actually. Our Constitution gives the government express power to violently and brutally squash any armed insurrection; a power that it's used dozens of times from Shays Rebellion to Ruby Ridge.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so your vocabulary is limited. we get it.
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I don't play semantic games.


SmarterthanYou said:
If the government is going to use weapons like that against it's citizenry, don't you think that the purpose of the 2nd Amendment DEMANDS that the citizenry have those weapons as well??????
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No. Because the Constitution, the thing you claim you love, gives government the power to brutally and violently squash any rebellion against it. Ask your traitor forefathers in the Confederacy how that worked out for them. Oh right you can't because they're dead losers.
 
The Derp said:
You're damn right I'm coming for your guns because you're too irresponsible and careless to have them. Government's got nothing to do with it, and in the 240+ year history of this country, not once have guns in the hands of citizens ever been a bulwark against tyranny. Quite the opposite, actually. Our Constitution gives the government express power to violently and brutally squash any armed insurrection; a power that it's used dozens of times from Shays Rebellion to Ruby Ridge.
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here's a question.....if you're for disarming cops and civilians, who are you sending to get our guns? and how do you feel about the founders intentions about the civilians always being more powerful than a standing army? or are you one of those that thinks the feds LOVED their new central government and trusted them implicitly, so the right to bear arms was just a big 'haha, fucked you' to the new populace?
 
The Derp said:
Wow, great comeback.

All you're doing by bringing a gun into your home is adding to the pool of available guns for criminals to steal.

So you buy a gun to protect your home from criminals armed with guns they stole from homes.

So how are you not perpetuating a cynical, bloody ploy to sell weapons and make gun companies richer?
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If you don't think I should own guns, I'll make you the same challenge the others saying the same thing have been offered. Come and try to take them. The rest haven't shown.
There's no reason to believe a pussy like you will.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that's what the constitution says
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You know what else it says? It says that the government can use its military to put down any revolt within its borders. A power it's used dozens of times, from the Whiskey Rebellion to the Confederacy to Waco.


SmarterthanYou said:
but how often does the government operate outside the constitution? what makes you think that the military wouldn't operate outside the constitution if ordered to do so?
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The purpose of the Judicial System is to make sure the actions taken by the government are constitutional. That's literally the Judicial branch's job. Wow, you don't know anything about our system of government at all.
 
The Derp said:
My stats aren't BS; they come directly from the DOJ's survey that they've been doing since the 1970's:

WASHINGTON – About 1.4 million firearms were stolen during household burglaries and other property crimes over the six-year period from 2005 through 2010, according to a report released today by the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS). This number represents an estimated average of 232,400 firearms stolen each year— about 172,000 stolen during burglaries and 60,300 stolen during other property crimes.

And those stolen guns are fueling gun crime.
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Well, you got your stats right. I have to give you that.

You see, leftists are wrong about almost everything. But occasionally you perverts do get something right.

Of course, that doesn't help you here because you're still trying to abrogate the true perpetrators of crime, and that's the criminals themselves.

For someone like you to try and punish the victims of crimes is both irresponsible and absurd.

No, the best thing to do is honor the 2nd Amendment and increase training and awareness among gun owners.

Instead of letting a low T degenerate like you get our guns confiscated we need to lift restrictions on gun owners (especially in their own homes) and let them know it's open season on intruders. If they break into your home and you catch them, please feel free to blow their asses away.

There are other things a gun owner can do: buy an alarm system, get a couple dogs, get anything you can think of that will help you handle a criminal selfish asshole.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so we're nothing but cattle to you? this is why you have no moral compass. you're only for individual freedoms that you like, not for all of them.
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To me, you're personally no better than a barnyard animal. But even barnyard animals get vaccinated.

It's not "freedom" to willingly spread disease because you have shitty principles.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
here's a question.....if you're for disarming cops and civilians, who are you sending to get our guns?
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I'm glad you asked.

Step #1 is banning the manufacture of any firearms for civilians

Step #2 is passing a stimulus program that would be a no-questions-asked gun buy-back; you walk into a police station with your weapons, and you walk out with a huge check - the aims of which would be to make gun owners choose between $$ and their guns. Or create conflict within a family to get the guns turned in. Because while shitty ass Joe Redneck might not want to trade in his guns for cash, someone in his shitty family might. And if it's no-questions-asked, there's nothing stopping someone in your family from taking your guns from you and trading them in for cash. I think if the government offered $1K per handgun, and $5K per rifle, most guns would be turned in. Then that leaves a handful in circulation and those will eventually be turned in as well when criminals are nabbed with them, or when the gun owner dies and his heirs turn the guns over to the cops. All of it would be no-questions-asked.

While not everyone has principles, everyone does have a price.

The average gun owner owns 8 guns. You mean to tell me that if you were offered $40K for your guns, you wouldn't take that? Can you say that other members in your family wouldn't sell you out? What could you do with $40K? You could put a downpayment on a home in a neighborhood that isn't so crime-ridden that you need a gun. You can buy a security alarm. You can reinforce your doors and locks. You can get a dog. There are countless things you can do with that money that would make you more secure, with some left over to have fun.
 
The Derp said:
Your shitty little gun in your shitty little hands is no match for the power of the US government.
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Easy, pervert. You're starting to sound like one of Hitler's secret police. ;)

The Derp said:
There have been nearly a dozen attempts by people like you to take up arms against the government to protect from "tyranny". And those people lost every. single. time.
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Oh, I'm not talking about the isolated incidents, comrade. I'm talking about full on Civil War.

You see, comrade, Civil War will break out when democrats are in power. And once those degenerates have crossed that last line, the military will be instantly divided between brainless zombiecrats and freedom loving patriots.

They'll probably cancel each other out, and all that will be left between us and you diapered pansies is your decimated government.
 
The Derp said:
I don't play semantic games.
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but you do, right to abortion and right to be free of mandatory injections.

The Derp said:
No. Because the Constitution, the thing you claim you love, gives government the power to brutally and violently squash any rebellion against it. Ask your traitor forefathers in the Confederacy how that worked out for them. Oh right you can't because they're dead losers.
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again, rebellion vs. restoration.

"The people -- the people -- are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts -- not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it." - Abraham Lincoln. you've heard of him, right?
 
The Derp said:
You know what else it says? It says that the government can use its military to put down any revolt within its borders. A power it's used dozens of times, from the Whiskey Rebellion to the Confederacy to Waco.




The purpose of the Judicial System is to make sure the actions taken by the government are constitutional. That's literally the Judicial branch's job. Wow, you don't know anything about our system of government at all.
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how do you feel about citizens united, then?
 
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