Into the Night
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Registration procedures is not a strawman fallacy, Poorboy. Fallacy fallacy.
Majority Leader John Thune is holding a vote in the Senate to require voter ID nationwide in elections by law, a provision of the SAVE America Act
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Yakuda
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So you can't or won't answer the question. AGAIN If people aren't asked to prove who they are when they vote how do you know the problem is miniscular?
Yakuda
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So who do I show my ID to when I "bear" my arms? When am I "bearing" my arms? You can run from the question if you like but it's weak
Having a background check is necessary to determine if you can buy a gun that you can later bear. Showing ID to do both is absurd. Why do you think one right guaranteed in the Constitution requires ID to exercise but the other one doesn't.
By the way, you are ignoring the fact that states set rules for elections.
I see you are determined to provide more evidence you have no brain.
This is where we get to see how ignorant and unable to think things through you on the right are. If you say that rights guaranteed in the Constitution require an ID before they are exercised then it applies to all rights in the Constitution. A Democratic Congress could then pass a law requiring you to show ID to a designated official before leaving your house with a gun. Your state could then place that official where they want to including only in blue areas of the state. You would then have to leave your house, drive 50 miles to see that official and get a slip from them authorizing you to carry for that day. You would then have to drive home to get your gun. You would have to do that every day. Maybe if you are lucky, they might let you carry your gun locked up in your trunk while you drive to see the official.
Denial of reality
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, all innuendo and circumstantial “evidence” that has been litigated, reviewed, investigated, probed, researched, scrutinized, analyzed, and examined, and all found bogus, nothing from nothing leaves nothing
Because it has never been found to be anything but miniscular
“Our elections already include multiple layers of security — from registration verification and signature matching to ballot tracking and post-election audits. Studies of U.S. elections have consistently found that voter fraud is extremely rare, estimated at 0.0025%. And the small number of cases that do occur are often paperwork issues and almost never involve someone impersonating another voter at the polls, meaning strict voter ID laws would do little to prevent them”
Voter ID Laws: What’s Fact vs. Fiction - When We All Vote
Let’s talk about the myths driving the push for voter ID laws.
whenweallvote.org
The Myth of Voter Fraud
Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections.
www.brennancenter.org
What research tells us about voter fraud - SciLine
www.sciline.org
Mail voting fraud: Data points to low risk and high benefits for voters | Brookings
Analysis finds mail voting fraud in the U.S. is exceedingly rare and shows universal vote-by-mail boosts access, turnout, and cost efficiency.
www.brookings.edu
Got any more questions?
Yakuda
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Laws cant pose an undue burden on citizens. Driving 50 miles to get a slip is an undue burden dipshit. Getting an ID is not an undue burden, pinhead
Yakuda
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Because it has never been found to be anything but miniscular
“Our elections already include multiple layers of security — from registration verification and signature matching to ballot tracking and post-election audits. Studies of U.S. elections have consistently found that voter fraud is extremely rare, estimated at 0.0025%. And the small number of cases that do occur are often paperwork issues and almost never involve someone impersonating another voter at the polls, meaning strict voter ID laws would do little to prevent them”
Voter ID Laws: What’s Fact vs. Fiction - When We All Vote
Let’s talk about the myths driving the push for voter ID laws.The Myth of Voter Fraud
Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections.What research tells us about voter fraud - SciLine
Mail voting fraud: Data points to low risk and high benefits for voters | Brookings
Analysis finds mail voting fraud in the U.S. is exceedingly rare and shows universal vote-by-mail boosts access, turnout, and cost efficiency.
Got any more questions?
The first link doesnt even come close to answering the question dumbassBecause it has never been found to be anything but miniscular
“Our elections already include multiple layers of security — from registration verification and signature matching to ballot tracking and post-election audits. Studies of U.S. elections have consistently found that voter fraud is extremely rare, estimated at 0.0025%. And the small number of cases that do occur are often paperwork issues and almost never involve someone impersonating another voter at the polls, meaning strict voter ID laws would do little to prevent them”
Voter ID Laws: What’s Fact vs. Fiction - When We All Vote
Let’s talk about the myths driving the push for voter ID laws.The Myth of Voter Fraud
Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections.What research tells us about voter fraud - SciLine
Mail voting fraud: Data points to low risk and high benefits for voters | Brookings
Analysis finds mail voting fraud in the U.S. is exceedingly rare and shows universal vote-by-mail boosts access, turnout, and cost efficiency.
Got any more questions?
Into the Night
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Mantra 1a. Lame.
Illiteracy: Double verb. Double noun.
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Sure it does, as do all the others, and there are plenty more, all showing that voter ID fraud is so rare that it is nearly nonexistent
Face up to the facts
Yakuda
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No it doesnt because it doesnt address the the problem which is people dont have to prove who they are when they actually vote. Have you ever voted in Massachusetts?
Really? An undue burden is what? Having to travel over an hour to vote is OK but an hour of travel is a burden for other rights?
The Constitution disagrees with you. You can't charge money to have to vote. It's right there in the 24th amendment.. Which ID is free? Having an ID for other purposes does NOT equate to a free ID.
Into the Night
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Buzzword fallacy. Go learn what 'reality' means.
Into the Night
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Denial of history. Cliche fallacy.
You can't make any evidence of Democrat election fraud just disappear, anchovies.
It seems you have never once voted if you think people don't have to identify themselves when voting. You are under penalty of law when you identify yourself to vote. If people were illegally claiming to be other people there would be evidence of that. People would show up to vote and be told they had already voted. It doesn't happen because the penalty is far greater than any benefit. You are basing your argument on non existent facts and speculation.
But let's take this further. People could be illegally carrying guns by claiming to be other people. The only way to prevent that is to require everyone who wants to carry a gun present an ID every time they want to carry that gun. It is your argument applied equally to another right.
Yakuda
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No one has to travel over an hour to vote. Being a drama queen isnt a rational argument.
No one is charged money to vote. More drama queenery. But even the nuts on your side of the argument say people have to prove who they are in order to register to vote but now you're whining its an undue burden. You people are messed up in the head
Into the Night
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Inversion fallacy.
The Constitution does not provide any rights.
Voting is not a right.
You are ignoring the 2nd and 4th amendments again.
You are ignoring Article I, the 14th amendment, and all State constitutions again.
You are ignoring the 2nd amendment again.
You are ignoring the 2nd amendment again.